Noob Exporer II V2 w/A2836 Now Available

[Javi23]

I have the gen polar dial on a v1 case and the gen dial is a lot different to the v1 dial. The gen lume is actually darker shade of white than the reps. The black outline is much thicker on the gen and the orange on the gen is higher on contrast. Also the print on the gen is sharp and thin. The gen dial makes a huge difference to the watch. I would say to get the black dial v2 as it looks closer to gen than the polar. I'm gona purchase the v2 as it looks almost perfect to the gen apart from the rehaut. Thanks for the comparison pic jhk.

i will post a gen vs rep pic of the v1 dial and gen dial when I get home

What difference do you notice on the rehaut between gen and V2? The deepness of the engraving only?

Also, if I want a gen dial, about how much should I expect to pay and how hard is to locate one available for sale?

I'm also on the fence of purchasing the black V2 as my first rep. I think I'll pull the trigger in a week or two.

Thanks!


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[Uddind]

the difference on the rehaut is the reps ROLEX engraving is engraved and has a inner filling sort of engraving. the gen is outline engraving there is nothing filling the engraving. for instance the R on the gen is outline of the R on the reps theres vertical lines inside the letter R.

The gen 216570 dial is extremely hard to source more so than the sub dial. I tried many dealers and they said they couldnt get the dial. i got mine on ebay after searching months. it was a used dial theres a little mark on the bottom of the dial so they must have purchased a new dial from rolex and sold on old one one ebay. i got it for £170 however im not sure if you will find the gen dial again unless someone is selling a used one.

 

[Javi23]

the difference on the rehaut is the reps ROLEX engraving is engraved and has a inner filling sort of engraving. the gen is outline engraving there is nothing filling the engraving. for instance the R on the gen is outline of the R on the reps theres vertical lines inside the letter R.

The gen 216570 dial is extremely hard to source more so than the sub dial. I tried many dealers and they said they couldnt get the dial. i got mine on ebay after searching months. it was a used dial theres a little mark on the bottom of the dial so they must have purchased a new dial from rolex and sold on old one one ebay. i got it for £170 however im not sure if you will find the gen dial again unless someone is selling a used one.

Thanks Udding.

I don't think ill mind much the difference in rehaut, as long as it's looks ok from a distance. The average person probably won't notice.


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[egroegart]

Yep, you won't notice from a distance, but what he said is exactly right. Gen is basically outlined with a distinct line all the way around the letter. The rep, just the inside of the letter is lasered out or however they do it. but looking down at your wrist you can't tell a difference. Only up very close and with a loupe or macro pics. or if you have a good eye when you get up close. but really it's not bad at all. And something that nobody will ever see.

 

[Javi23]

Thanks Udding and egroegart.

Does anyone have a recommendation on an expert in the US who can perform a relume on this exp II rep? I already contacted Cwazy but unfortunately he said he did not work this model.

I really want this rep in polar and the only thing that bugs me is the lume color issue. I have no issues with the dial color as you would need to have the gen next to it to notice any difference. I handled the gen this weekend and the lume color is really the only noticeable difference I found.


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[trinity13]

Both the black and polar are in stock now. Still not sure which one to get...
Almost all of my watches are black dial, but if i take the polar, will it be too easy to spot that is a rep?


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[egroegart]

Nobody is going to know. unless you are showing it to a rolex afficionado. Most people will never even notice your watch. Do you know anyone personally that knows about the mismatch lume on the dial besides us here? I'm sure there's some, but most likely you will never ever meet someone who will know it's not a gen. I don't pass mine off as gens anyway. If someone asks, I tell them what it is.

 

[Javi23]

I was thinking of reluming but was quoted over $150 for the job and I find that too much. I'm now thinking of purchasing the black V2 since the lume issue is less noticeable and just wait for a V3 to see how the polar looks then, and if they fix the lume issue I will purchase that polar V3 and probably sell the black V2 (m2m). Or probably keep the black as well until Noob makes an accurate 39mm Exp I that has the 2836 movement as is under $400.

I'm gonna sleep on it and buy tomorrow.


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[electric]

Polar v3 will not be a cream dial? What's a v3 got that the v2 doesn't? And how would a relume be different then the one you have?

 

[Javi23]

V3 doesn't exist yet. I'm hoping that when a v3 is released, the lume on the hand matches the lume on the dial markers, in both the white (polar) and black version. With just that correction, I would be happy. I have no issues with the color of the dials in the black or polar V2.


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[egroegart]

Yep, that's about the only correction they need to make, oh, and the datewheel is to the left, both of which were not problems on the version one. so a step backwards, but they did improve the bezel font which is now very gen like. . I believe it is the hour marker cup from the underside showing through that's why the markers are dark. Should have been painted white underneath. That would certainly solve the problem by painting the inside of the cups white before applying the lume. But, that's how they get you to buy the next version. Improvements in one area and more flaws in other areas. Smart cookies those Chinese guys.

 

[Javi23]

Yep, that's about the only correction they need to make, oh, and the datewheel is to the left, both of which were not problems on the version one. so a step backwards, but they did improve the bezel font which is now very gen like. . I believe it is the hour marker cup from the underside showing through that's why the markers are dark. Should have been painted white underneath. That would certainly solve the problem by painting the inside of the cups white before applying the lume. But, that's how they get you to buy the next version. Improvements in one area and more flaws in other areas. Smart cookies those Chinese guys.

that's why I want to buy this version, I'm fearing they will fix the lume issue (which is minor) and then mess up something far more important to keep us buying new versions. If this is going to be version closest to gen, I don't want to miss out.

Question, can a watchsmith realign the date wheel or does it need to be replaced by a new one?

 

[jhk6323]

I was thinking of reluming but was quoted over $150 for the job and I find that too much. I'm now thinking of purchasing the black V2 since the lume issue is less noticeable and just wait for a V3 to see how the polar looks then, and if they fix the lume issue I will purchase that polar V3 and probably sell the black V2 (m2m). Or probably keep the black as well until Noob makes an accurate 39mm Exp I that has the 2836 movement as is under $400.

I'm gonna sleep on it and buy tomorrow.


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hi monkeywatch do u mind to let me know where i can find someone to relume this polar?

thank you

 

[Javi23]

hi monkeywatch do u mind to let me know where i can find someone to relume this polar?

thank you

I sent you a PM.


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[flyboy744]

egroegart,

I realised no one really discussed the orange UTC needle of the rep version. I realised in V1, the UTC orange needle is slightly longer than the gen. Do you think the V2 is much better?

Cheers!

 

[egroegart]

It's never come up because that isn't true. It was the same length as the gen with the v1 and is still the same with the v2. Here's my v1

here's the v2

and here's the gen. all the same.

 

[flyboy744]

Hmm... my V1, the UTC is slimmer and longer, the end of the orange line cuts below the circle hour hand, compare to the gen, that cuts above it... maybe it's an illusion effect...

Correct me if I m wrong again...one of the biggest difference in the bezel that the triangles and the numbers are closer to the glass compare to V1.... trying to dissect the differences....

Cheers!

 

[OPdestrolover]

That would be a very useful information, couldn't find a thread about it:
what are the differences between V1, V2 and gen ?
Something like that would help quite a few people, I believe.

 

[rockstardc]

I have nothing but respect for you guys. Every picture I see, the color of the lume on the hands and markers look the same lol. No idea how you guys tell the difference.

I really love the white but based on egroegart's reviews, I'm going to go with the expert and get a black.

You guys rock!

 

[egroegart]

rockstardc. there are a few good threads about it. Just search a little harder. If you don't find them let me know and I'll search, but should be very easy to find. I myself have posted a lot of picture comparisons and reviews on it.

the pic I posted above of my v2 was taken outside and when taken outside the hands appear to match the hour markers. but if you click on my name and go to my profile and look at the threads I've posted about the v2 you will see the pics of it that clearly show the hands are a much starker white than the hour markers when taken indoors.

That doesn't bother me at all. I wish they matched of course, but it's something that I can live with. but will hopefully be fixed with the next version out. and is an easy fix for them.

as far as the white dial. It's a great watch too, and they made good improvements on the v2 also with the white. the lume difference is more noticeable I think because of the white dial. It just shows up more with the white dial. The other issue with the white is the dial color doesn't match the white of the gen. but honestly you would never know unless you held them side by side, so honestly the white is a great watch too. I hope they get the lume issue fixed because it is a pretty big flaw especially since it is noticeable. the biggest most annoying flaw to me on the version 2 is the datewheel is misaligned to the left, like I said along with the lume issue were both non issues with the v1, so two steps backwards, but a couple steps forward with other issues. still a great watch and the datewheel is a fairly easy fix. but enough of a stink has been raised that they are well aware of these new issues. So we will see what they do with the v3.