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Noob ceramic insert with platinum plating

Spatiumtemporis

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Pictures of the black hole effect please
Top is noob in both pics. Bottom is gen.

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Noob v7 latest batch. Some call it v8.

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dennis7899

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The latest batch of noob have a black hole effect. Not as obvious as gen but it is there for sure.

I made some macro shots of the v7 datewheel. The text is glossy and raised. I don't think a gen would make much of a difference.

You can just mod the insert of a nodate and be done. Cheers

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Oké, nice. The pictures in this thead look really good! Didn't know that they managed to get the crystal so close to gen.
I should start with ordering a new Noob watch then.
 

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Biggest tell is the lack of the white halo around the cyclops on the rep.
 

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The noob insert gets grayish after a while o usage, this is a well known issue. I am wondering about whey this happened, so i made some exam.

These are the macro shot of the sample i examed, a insert was crashed into small pieces and loaded into the the SEM(Secondary Electron Microscope) for the inspection. The machine is capable of observing the micro or nano scale structure and also able to analysis the composition of the object(EDX function).
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The following 2 photos are the EDX result:
edx_zps2c0q2edz.jpg

The photo on the left is the signal from the center of the "0". (The black color region with polished finish)
The photo on the right is taken from the groove. (The stock paint)
After these 2 photos, i realized that this insert is made by zirconium oxide and this is a very common ceramic which was widely used in many applications. And the material in the groove is not any kind of paint, it is a chromium based metal layer, this is a very durable material, also not easy to deal with. Most of the chemicals are not able to remove this layer or corrode it with very slow etch rate. A feature of this material is that it becomes yellowish or grayish after a while of usage.

The following photo is the XFA result(X-ray Fluorescence Analysis) which was provided by @andrei01, thanks for the help!!
The analysis shows highly amount of zirconium and some chromium signal, both elements also exist in my result.
20170407_101106_zpsft2fiufj.jpg
 

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The noob insert gets grayish after a while o usage, this is a well known issue. I am wondering about whey this happened, so i made some exam.

These are the macro shot of the sample i examed, a insert was crashed into small pieces and loaded into the the SEM(Secondary Electron Microscope) for the inspection. The machine is capable of observing the micro or nano scale structure and also able to analysis the composition of the object(EDX function).
SEM_m001_zpscesh6x8b.jpg

SEM_m003_zpsixmvjjzw.jpg


The following 2 photos are the EDX result:
edx_zps2c0q2edz.jpg

The photo on the left is the signal from the center of the "0". (The black color region with polished finish)
The photo on the right is taken from the groove. (The stock paint)
After these 2 photos, i realized that this insert is made by zirconium oxide and this is a very common ceramic which was widely used in many applications. And the material in the groove is not any kind of paint, it is a chromium based metal layer, this is a very durable material, also not easy to deal with. Most of the chemicals are not able to remove this layer or corrode it with very slow etch rate. A feature of this material is that it becomes yellowish or grayish after a while of usage.

The following photo is the XFA result(X-ray Fluorescence Analysis) which was provided by @andrei01, thanks for the help!!
The analysis shows highly amount of zirconium and some chromium signal, both elements also exist in my result.
20170407_101106_zpsft2fiufj.jpg

wow ! you took it to next level
very nice bud
 

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Top is noob in both pics. Bottom is gen.

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Noob v7 latest batch. Some call it v8.

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Sorry my bad English sometimes doesn't help me to understand! You mean that V7 has been improved lately and now the cyclop is very close to the original (stock cyclop) or did you just modify it? Where can I get this new Noob V7?
 

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Sorry my bad English sometimes doesn't help me to understand! You mean that V7 has been improved lately and now the cyclop is very close to the original (stock cyclop) or did you just modify it? Where can I get this new Noob V7?
This is stock noob crystal. I bought the watch from chazing time. I mentuoned to them i want the latest batch. The crystal is very close to the gen yes. At least in my opinion.

Let's keep this thread about the insert mod which is freaking amazing. :)

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This is stock noob crystal. I bought the watch from chazing time. I mentuoned to them i want the latest batch. The crystal is very close to the gen yes. At least in my opinion.

Let's keep this thread about the insert mod which is freaking amazing. :)

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crystal close to the gen??? it's a joke?


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WOW that was some kind of NASA Analysis! But the kind of detail needed to get the mod as close to Gen as possible.
I think you mod is the way to go- I can't wait until my insert gets here!
 

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lol ... look men .... When I put gen crystal, it's night and day. And the cyclop suck ...

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I'm not gonna argue with you. The discussion is offtopic anyway.

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SEM?! You are a serious scientist , @d09624008. Love your work. So the chromium based metal layer is hard to deal with...does that have implications for your platinum mod?
 

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The noob insert gets grayish after a while o usage, this is a well known issue. I am wondering about whey this happened, so i made some exam.

These are the macro shot of the sample i examed, a insert was crashed into small pieces and loaded into the the SEM(Secondary Electron Microscope) for the inspection. The machine is capable of observing the micro or nano scale structure and also able to analysis the composition of the object(EDX function).
SEM_m001_zpscesh6x8b.jpg

SEM_m003_zpsixmvjjzw.jpg


The following 2 photos are the EDX result:
edx_zps2c0q2edz.jpg

The photo on the left is the signal from the center of the "0". (The black color region with polished finish)
The photo on the right is taken from the groove. (The stock paint)
After these 2 photos, i realized that this insert is made by zirconium oxide and this is a very common ceramic which was widely used in many applications. And the material in the groove is not any kind of paint, it is a chromium based metal layer, this is a very durable material, also not easy to deal with. Most of the chemicals are not able to remove this layer or corrode it with very slow etch rate. A feature of this material is that it becomes yellowish or grayish after a while of usage.

The following photo is the XFA result(X-ray Fluorescence Analysis) which was provided by @andrei01, thanks for the help!!
The analysis shows highly amount of zirconium and some chromium signal, both elements also exist in my result.
20170407_101106_zpsft2fiufj.jpg

Quite amazing. Can't wait to get your insert on my dssd!!


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The Noob is Made of zirconium like the real one? Why is it get Grey after some time? Or you mean only the stock paint from the engravings?
 

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OP laying down some real science! Can't wait to get my insert back with the mod!


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SEM?! You are a serious scientist , @d09624008. Love your work. So the chromium based metal layer is hard to deal with...does that have implications for your platinum mod?

Yes, it sometimes affect the platinum layer, i still not figure the reason out, but this layer should be removed.