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New VSF 441 12hour GMT

mysterio

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Mine spins like fidget spinner


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Video? I've never encountered this on either PAM441 or PAM438 rep I own.

Why didn't the makers just affix the power reserve wheel permanently?

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Like I said, it's not normal to be spinning around freely like that. As to the answer to your question, only the factories know the exact answer. But, maybe using an adhesive inside the movement would later on cause problems once it outgasses due to heat. Why not use an adhesive that doesn't do that? Would you pay an additional $30 for it (excessive I know but just an example as factories sometimes raise the price for no reason, let alone for a known reason)?
 

mysterio

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me eigther but the black ceramic bracelet
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I got the PAM438 over the PAM441 precisely because of the bracelet. But if they're going to update the movement on the PAM438 to the V2 P.9001 then they better PVD it as well. May not be your cup of tea, but that's how the gen looks. :)
 

karmank123

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Now I'm considering getting the 438 as the bracelet is a nice option included over this V2. I'm so confused at to which one to get as my first pam!

Looking forward to the pics from the people who have got this!
 

mysterio

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Now I'm considering getting the 438 as the bracelet is a nice option included over this V2. I'm so confused at to which one to get as my first pam!

Looking forward to the pics from the people who have got this!

If you just like the bracelet, ask the TD if you can buy it separately when you get the PAM441 with V2 P.9001. Otherwise you will have to wait until the factory gets to making the update on the PAM438 rep which no one knows.
 

karmank123

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If you just like the bracelet, ask the TD if you can buy it separately when you get the PAM441 with V2 P.9001. Otherwise you will have to wait until the factory gets to making the update on the PAM438 rep which no one knows.

Yes I may ask them about this but it will probably work out more expensive. If this is the case I need to choose if the cheaper 438 is good enough for me over this V2!
 

PsychoTee16

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Yes it is more expensive. I paid an extra 100-120 USD for the bracelet.

But I wanted the clone movement!
 

bangsters

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just received mine there's is a stain on the movement... already contacted td but is this easy to get off?.... really like the watch but the stain is really annoying


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Pop the caseback, maybe the stain is just on the glass?

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Pop the caseback, maybe the stain is just on the glass?

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Thanks for the reply. Just double checked the stain is on the movement. Is there a way to get it cleaned? Should I do it myself or take the watch to a shop and let a watch man take care of it? Many thanks!



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bangsters

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Thanks for the reply. Just double checked the stain is on the movement. Is there a way to get it cleaned? Should I do it myself or take the watch to a shop and let a watch man take care of it? Many thanks!



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Could be justva simple wipe with a slightly damp cloth. Other than that not sure without really seeing first hand. See if a damp cloth can get the stain off.

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Machpoint89

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Mine came in last week. Absolutely love it. The power reserve doesn't spin freely. Haven't figured out what it's rotation period is.

And yes when hacked the second hand doesn't reset to 12 o Clock position. Which would have been nice, but no big deal for me.

Must say I feel like someone touched the inside back case and thinking of cleaning it, but it doesn't bother me a whole lot yet. You'd have to really look.

Overall feels as heavy as the GEN.

I was afraid it would look to bit so tried on some GEN. My wrist are 17cm or 6.75" in circumference.

Think it looks good!!

Strap is very rigid so waiting for time to do its thing and let the leather relax. There does seem quite a bit of play where the pins meet the strap.

Had a slow-mo video of the movement, but don't know how to upload it here

Hopes this helps someone. I love this watch.
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