I tried on the 2164 while I was out X-mas shipping. Panerai stiff the buyer by using a cheaper casebook. Also Case, crownloard & bezel have different gold hues, almost like the gold mix is different per component. Not unlikely made a different locations. Very visible under the AD bright lights.
I'm sorry, but I have to vehemently disagree. I tested the VSF 904 once and if you have a normal wrist, you can see the extra thickness immediately. It's a completely different watch to the Gen-Due ... unfortunately, because otherwise I really liked the 904.
That was a very academic review - I must have missed it. Great Job.
That looks really nice , elegant !Yeap the bezel is really the part (and cg) that you notice first as rep. The thickness is below the midcase but depending on wrist shape that may well disappear a bit. But you can’t miss the too tall bezel.
But it is a nice looking rep and if I’d not gone gen I’d have snapped it up!
Thanks. Maybe I'm being a little too harsh in my assessment. I also like wearing Offshore Reps, for example, even though they are far too thick compared to Gen. At the end of the day, this is a very subjective question. You can only objectively measure the differences to Gen. Then the verdict is clear. But that doesn't mean it's a bad watch. Whatever you like is allowed. And there is no doubt that the Due-Reps are otherwise beautiful watches. So why shouldn't you enjoy them?
Yeap the bezel is really the part (and cg) that you notice first as rep. The thickness is below the midcase but depending on wrist shape that may well disappear a bit. But you can’t miss the too tall bezel.
But it is a nice looking rep and if I’d not gone gen I’d have snapped it up!
Not harsh at all, you call it how you see it and I agree with you assessment. Value add.
The markers on six o‘clock on the VSF submersibles are often so damn crooked, as with this one here. Such obvious flaws shouldn’t pass the internal QC check imho, let alone being used for TD pictures.They are up on intime, so more pics can be found here:
PAM2164 Luminor Submersible 42mm RG VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Black Rubber Strap Asian P900 - InTimeWatch
PAM2164 Luminor Submersible 42mm RG VSF 1:1 Best Edition on Black Rubber Strap Asian P900www.intime06.co
its actually quite hard to tell from the intime pictures I agree..... the early pix in this thread they appear gold but the lighting on the IT ones is harsh ....you'd have to wait for QC I guess to check. they also still state its 44mm. oh dear!!!!
4 sure incorrect data on the website. Same mold as the older VSF @ 42mmsI ordered one from Marv for Mrs Ah0rsey and he will confirm to me whether that it is indeed 42mm not 44mm…. Which I’m sure it’s just the website is wrong
oh and it was $360 shipped to UK for interest
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