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NEW RELEASE BT/BETTER FACTORY DAYTONA 116500

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From intimes pics the lugs look to be slightly longer giving the SEL a more gen like recess at the tip of the lug. Cleans are almost flush


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I think It looks good better than clean.
Especially, there's no blue hue on the white dial.

By the way, is rep 4130 movement reliable?
price is high but the movement is not reliable, even I want to buy..
 

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intime, jtime, trusty, puretime, everyone recommends Clean to me better, so I don't know what to do... because if several TDs recommend Clean, it must be for a reason...
 

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seen on the net... how do you see it?

What's up with the chrono? Minutes on chrono are almost half an hour in but hour hand hasn't moved at all. AFAIK on noob it's moving even before hitting 30mins exactly
 

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From intimes pics the lugs look to be slightly longer giving the SEL a more gen like recess at the tip of the lug. Cleans are almost flush


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Yes I spotted that too. The lugs look a lot better. The crown guards also look better. I'm looking forward to seeing more pictures before calling this though!

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I think clean is better overall still. The rehualt engraving and overall qc is better. The only thing is the crown and case back teeth win on BT.
the only stupid thing that i dont like on clean is that they marked “clean” on their bezel and back of the dial. If they but a rolex logo on the watch they are reping a rolex. Why wouldnt they put rolex logo on the back of bezel or dial. That just stupid. U might say they sont want the watch to pass as gen on market. But rep watch is illegal anyways. Just doesnt make sense to me

Please u can post photo with blog clean on back of the dial and bezel please?
 

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intime, jtime, trusty, puretime, everyone recommends Clean to me better, so I don't know what to do... because if several TDs recommend Clean, it must be for a reason...

Interesting. But I would like to know what specifically is better and for which dial (white or black). Is it strictly the dial they say clean is better or is it other factors (case, hands, bezel, etc). Movement is the same for both factories so it doesn't matter.
 

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The one on 116519 is very obvious on gen . But i dont really see it that much on panda. Damn it makes me want to buy a BT just to look at what its like. Lol

So in the genuine the subdials rings are shiny right?
 

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Gen has shiny outer ring to the subdials. It's something neither noob nor arf quite got right.

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The genuine have he subdials rings are shiny right? Like CF
 

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Interesting. But I would like to know what specifically is better and for which dial (white or black). Is it strictly the dial they say clean is better or is it other factors (case, hands, bezel, etc). Movement is the same for both factories so it doesn't matter.

I talked to them about the panda, they say that the bezel and bracelet dial is very good for BT, but that in general rules CF is better
 
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Please u can post photo with blog clean on back of the dial and bezel please?

Please u can post photo with *marked clean on back of the dial and bezel please?
 

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I talked to them about the panda, they say that the bezel and bracelet dial is very good for BT, but that in general rules CF is better

My humble opinion, BTF makes a better black dial than CF. Also what concerns me are issues with CF (aside from the sub dials are not as thin as gen) is the crown falling off and other issues with the pushers. That's why I believe BTF makes a better Daytona. Again... my humble opinion.
 

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My humble opinion, BTF makes a better black dial than CF. Also what concerns me are issues with CF (aside from the sub dials are not as thin as gen) is the crown falling off and other issues with the pushers. That's why I believe BTF makes a better Daytona. Again... my humble opinion.

Given that the BTF is completely new and that no one has had it in hands, there's therefore no way to assess yet whether quality is good, or whether they'll have falling crowns, issues with pushers or any other issues.

So we may want to wait a bit before saying it's better or worse than CF
 
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Given that the BTF is completely new and that no one has had it in hands, there's therefore no way to assess yet whether quality is good, or whether they'll have falling crowns, issues with pushers or any other issues.

So we may want to wait a bit before saying it's better or worse than CF

Well some have claimed that BTF is 3KF reincarnated and that 3KF had a good reputation when they were operating.
 

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Well some have claimed that BTF is 3KF reincarnated and that 3KF had a good reputation when they were operating.

Which may be true or not, so that's a little light to assess whether a new release from them is better than CF
3KF has been mostly known for their Pateks as they came.up with the clone 324 movement. But there's been many cases of issues with the stem for example

Again the only way to tell is to have real feedback from people who have had it in hand, worn it for a while and ideally have also owned the CF

Until then it's all speculation
 
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Since i knnmow its from 3k , i dont like it. The 3k movement on the pp is crap. Both of mine fucked up . I never had any issue like that with other rep.
 

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The dial lume material just looks wrong, it looks very lime green in some light and seems to have a very smooth surface. In other words it has no grain to it like Rolex and CF lume has. Hoping for closer pics to rule this out.


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