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New PPF 5712 with PP240 Super Clone.....

grillbrill

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While we're on the subject of 5712s, does anyone know the lug-to-lug measurement? As far as I can tell, if it's the same as a 5711 it should be around 44mm. But that seems very small, I've never handled a 5711 or 5712, clone or gen, but in pictures they look rather large. I remember being upset at my 15202 wearing so large with it's 49mm lug-to-lug and instantly knew I would sell it. (I have ~6.25" wrists and prefer <47mm lug-to-lug)

Here you go with my PPF 5712. Its first links were modded but I think the mod might have narrowed that distance by only 1-2 mm.
 

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Most of us already know that the first batch of QCs will start trickling down sometime from the end of June. But it seems that almost no-one has the patience to just wait until then. That is why we are getting these endless junk discussions.

It just goes to show that most of us (myself included) just don't have a life.
 

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Alright, advice taken. I'll drop the option and plunk down the extra 200... but please teach me, can you tell me what you guys look for in these images that would be red-flags? Or what questions would you ask TD to rank this model?
TD don't rank anything, a lot will say "best version" 1:1 or super clone.

We don't need to teach you, you can teach your self by using the search bar and read up what others had already hsd asked and said. Posting questions like this here will gain you no sympathy or answers.

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We desperately need QCs to stop the color-freaking-out-madness that is happening in this thread lol

People already talking about swapping dials

Every one of us wishes we are wrong to be sceptical about the dial. V1 was near perfect. Super 240 photos of the dial are not encouraging.
 
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Tobel

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Indeed, that would solve the biggest issue people have when you are spending $750 nearly...

Or maybe we could wait for someone, even just one person, to have the actual watch in hands, not a prototype and tell us whether there is even a problem?

How can something that no one has seen yet be "the biggest issue"? We don't even know whether there will even be anything to solve at all regarding the dial...
 
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Or maybe we could wait for someone, even just one person, to have the actual watch in hands, not a prototype and tell us whether there is even a problem?

How can something that no one has seen yet be "the biggest issue"? We don't even know whether there will even be anything to solve at all regarding the dial...

That's a very easy question to answer. Look at the photos of the dial on V2!! Clearly you are not telling me you can see the flat blue colour on the V2 and can't make out the difference from the V1?
 
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That's a very easy question to answer. Look at the photos of the dial on V2!! Clearly you are not telling me you can see the flat blue colour on the V2 and can't make out the difference from the V1?

That is not the V2 dial, it's a prototype. No one has seen the actual V2 dial because it hasn't been released yet. Hence my point. So unless you know for a fact that the final one won't be different, this is all useless until it is released
 
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That is not the V2 dial, it's a prototype. No one has seen the actual V2 dial because it hasn't been released yet. Hence my point. So unless you know for a fact that the final one won't be different, this is all useless until it is released

prototype???....and would they build a dial specifically for a prototype???
 
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prototype???....and would they build a dial specifically for a prototype???

Why would they put the final version on a prototype when what's important is ensuring the fit of the dial following the changes to the movement?

Just as likely to be old stock than the final version
 

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Or maybe we could wait for someone, even just one person, to have the actual watch in hands, not a prototype and tell us whether there is even a problem?

How can something that no one has seen yet be "the biggest issue"? We don't even know whether there will even be anything to solve at all regarding the dial...

Let’s hope you are right. One and done would be great. But very rare in this hobby…
 

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prototype???....and would they build a dial specifically for a prototype???

The whole watch is a prototype, with a prototype movement and potentially a prototype dial that goes with the movement.

So maybe it's the final dial, maybe it isn't. But until we know for a fact what the dial looks like I really don't understand the value of 34 pages of arguments based on pure conjectures, with people saying that it's a huge issue for sure like they have seen it, when the watch hasn't been released and we haven't seen any picture of the final product
 
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