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New PPF 5712 with PP240 Super Clone.....

poseidon.

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Ha!! compared to nearly the 5k options I have seen lately, its pretty cheap! lol...
Yea lol. But message Ctime, he can do a very similar build to this for 1336 + shipping. It’s with all SW parts. Perhaps you could ask him if it’s possible to get a DP moonphase since imo it’s way better than the SW one
 

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Yea lol. But message Ctime, he can do a very similar build to this for 1336 + shipping. It’s with all SW parts. Perhaps you could ask him if it’s possible to get a DP moonphase since imo it’s way better than the SW one
VVS and DP are both better than SW
 
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Can any Chinese speaking member help me please? If you are active on bilibili.com?
 

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What do you need?
I saw this watchmaker on there and I wanted to get his Wechat. Just that I can't send a message as it says "your level is not enough" ..just wondering if you can send him a message asking for his contact?
 

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I will share the pics of REAL SW and BUFF hands. I have seen so many member who got their watch moded with stock hands but being sold its sw or buff hands.
First buff and se is different. Main difference is buff have longer hour hands , which is a flaw not gen like. Sw now are the best option. Both are pure white ,no green hub. ONLY stock ppf hands have green hub . Also stock sub dial hands “circle” is flat and a bit bigger then sw or buff. The second hand have a silver ball shape pinon.
Sw or buff hande more bevel sub dial hands and a white pinon on second hand.

There are reasons why some member can get a so call full mod for as cheap as$1400 , because 5712 have a lot of different level of mod and parts you can get. Even moon disc have more then 10 different versions. So its better that you guys know what you are buying other then being cheated by some moders

 

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Pictures taken directly from factory.
There are price and stock already. But very limited.


Looks to me like a stock PPF movement with engraved bridges and a gen balance wheel, certainly not a 1:1 custom built movement. The hairspring isn’t a free sprung Patek one, the shape is wrong, it looks like they’ve just removed the regulator arm from the PPF balance cock and used a PPF hairspring on a gen balance wheel. Whether or not a gen balance staff fits the clone movement I don’t know, they must have staked the PPF balance staff to the gen balance wheel. This movement is a ticking time bomb imo.
 
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Looks to me like a stock PPF movement with engraved bridges and a gen balance wheel, certainly not a 1:1 custom built movement. The hairspring isn’t a free sprung Patek one, the shape is wrong, it looks like they’ve just removed the regulator arm from the PPF balance cock and used a PPF hairspring on a gen balance wheel. Whether or not a gen balance staff fits the clone movement I don’t know, they must have staked the PPF balance staff to the gen balance wheel. This movement is a ticking time bomb imo.
Are you sure about this?
I am also confused about this completely new movement made from scratch which seems to have almost everything perfect! How come there is no talking about it on the forums or other Chinese websites and bilibili. This watch is a big deal even in the domestic market in China and almost everyone would be talking about it.
 
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Are you sure about this?
I am also confused about this completely new movement made from scratch which seems to have almost everything perfect! How come there is no talking about it on the forums or other Chinese websites and bilibili. This watch is a big deal even in the domestic market in China and almost everyone would be talking about it.
If it's too good to be true, it probably is.

240 movement has enough problems as is. Add some engraved plates, pinion caps, and call it a day.
 

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Are you sure about this?
I am also confused about this completely new movement made from scratch which seems to have almost everything perfect! How come there is no talking about it on the forums or other Chinese websites and bilibili. This watch is a big deal even in the domestic market in China and almost everyone would be talking about it.
Yes I’m sure.
 

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Looks to me like a stock PPF movement with engraved bridges and a gen balance wheel, certainly not a 1:1 custom built movement. The hairspring isn’t a free sprung Patek one, the shape is wrong, it looks like they’ve just removed the regulator arm from the PPF balance cock and used a PPF hairspring on a gen balance wheel. Whether or not a gen balance staff fits the clone movement I don’t know, they must have staked the PPF balance staff to the gen balance wheel. This movement is a ticking time bomb imo.
The factory claim its a completely new movement. If its just a ppf modified then it definitely not worth the money. Its expensive
 
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