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Patsanchik

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My 10 is the same... and the 1 of the 12 is also slightly higher....but in real life it's not an issue:
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That looks beaut! This is the one I'm on the verge of buying.
 

ZoomBoy

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So just an update (and apologies for blowing up last night, was frustrated at the responses).

Again, I had worn my watch all weekend, and taken it off my wrist Saturday evening. Monday AM I checked my watch and the PR meter was at 5 days and the movement was not running. I gave it a shake, and it began running again - which I left sitting on my desk next to me while I worked. The watch took an entire day to go from 5 days to approx. 2 days.

This AM I got up first thing and checked the watch and it wasn't running anymore, with the PR indicator at 1 days now (start of the red line). Now the movement is officially out of energy in the mainspring. A slight smack gets the movement running again for 5 seconds but it stops right after.

So not sure if my needle has been placed on it wrong, or there's an issue with my movement - but at the end of the day it's not a huge pain. The watch looks great, runs very accurately on the wrist. I wish the PR indicator was a bit more accurate with zero being empty and seven being full but I'll overlook it for now.
 

ZoomBoy

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I'm also wearing another great PR model while I stare at the 5001:

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Even with the same movement as gen, the IWC 5001 has a longer PR!!
 

dannyw

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Tweaking the crown doesn't work and you will have a problem the next day during date change. The date stuck changing halfway. Yes, I believe this will break the dwo's teeth.

Why I know? I tried...

But on the bright side, at least IMO, the date font looks more like the gen than I've seen in other rep photos. Character thickness looks a bit finer.

Is it possible to tweak the position of the date in the window by carefully nudging via the crown?

And by the way, what does the 'o' stand for in 'dwo'?
 

Asheron82

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Mine had a very bad misalign DW when it came from the dealer, passed to my watchsmith to get it fixed. He said it was the dial that had been misaligned and also suggested that some of the dates printed on the DW isn't well centred as well.

He took apart the movt and told me it's running on a single barrel as opposed to the double barrel found in the PAM Superclone movts which makes it more stable too. He tested the movt and was able to get slightly over 5 days of PR.

Heres my Laureus Edition
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hub6152

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I'm also wearing another great PR model while I stare at the 5001:

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Even with the same movement as gen, the IWC 5001 has a longer PR!!

The 2892 movt in the 028 only has about a 42 hour PR. All the 28** series are the same. PR is dictated by the size of the mainspring so the rep movt makers actually did a pretty impressive job giving it as much as they have.
 

hub6152

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Mine had a very bad misalign DW when it came from the dealer, passed to my watchsmith to get it fixed. He said it was the dial that had been misaligned and also suggested that some of the dates printed on the DW isn't well centred as well.

He took apart the movt and told me it's running on a single barrel as opposed to the double barrel found in the PAM Superclone movts which makes it more stable too. He tested the movt and was able to get slightly over 5 days of PR.

Would be nice if you could ask him a bit more about the origins of this movt. Is it a hybrid of existing movements or is it completely new and purpose made? Also what he thinks of the quality and any potential weaknesses (keyless works might be a touch weak) and if it was lubed properly etc? Given that several have randomly stopped working and mine and others crowns have just pulled out any further info would be useful.
 

lolo1972sg

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Mine had a very bad misalign DW when it came from the dealer, passed to my watchsmith to get it fixed. He said it was the dial that had been misaligned and also suggested that some of the dates printed on the DW isn't well centred as well.

He took apart the movt and told me it's running on a single barrel as opposed to the double barrel found in the PAM Superclone movts which makes it more stable too. He tested the movt and was able to get slightly over 5 days of PR.

Heres my Laureus Edition
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Very nice sunburst effect!
 

hub6152

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So just an update (and apologies for blowing up last night, was frustrated at the responses).

Again, I had worn my watch all weekend, and taken it off my wrist Saturday evening. Monday AM I checked my watch and the PR meter was at 5 days and the movement was not running. I gave it a shake, and it began running again - which I left sitting on my desk next to me while I worked. The watch took an entire day to go from 5 days to approx. 2 days.

This AM I got up first thing and checked the watch and it wasn't running anymore, with the PR indicator at 1 days now (start of the red line). Now the movement is officially out of energy in the mainspring. A slight smack gets the movement running again for 5 seconds but it stops right after.

So not sure if my needle has been placed on it wrong, or there's an issue with my movement - but at the end of the day it's not a huge pain. The watch looks great, runs very accurately on the wrist. I wish the PR indicator was a bit more accurate with zero being empty and seven being full but I'll overlook it for now.

I think you've almost answered your own point in that the PR hand might be incorrectly positioned. Mine is running down and although still going the PR hand is almost at 0 now. It would seem you're one of the unlucky ones whose movt has randomly stopped. It should run perfectly regardless of it being worn. Your having to shake it to start it means it ideally needs a service. It could have a dry bearing or even an over oiled bearing (both situations increases friction and can be enough to stop it), or it could be some foreign object in it i.e. dust or dirt. At the same time the hand could easily be repositioned for better indication.
 

Asheron82

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Would be nice if you could ask him a bit more about the origins of this movt. Is it a hybrid of existing movements or is it completely new and purpose made? Also what he thinks of the quality and any potential weaknesses (keyless works might be a touch weak) and if it was lubed properly etc? Given that several have randomly stopped working and mine and others crowns have just pulled out any further info would be useful.

i did not have the opportunity to dig more information other then what he mentioned based on his experience when he did a full service on this new iwc rep movement.

the movement could well be purposed built for the upcoming floodgates of IWC reps, estimated around 20% of this new movement's build could be influenced from the PAM Superclone movt concept while the remaining 80% could be a mix of hybrid of either existing movements or totally new gears etc. i asked for his thoughts on the IWC 7-days versus the PAM Superclone movt in which he replied that this new movement has a better and well thought design as compared to the latter which has varying degrees of time-keeping issues, after service it kept good time as well.

however he did not mention anything on weakness like keyless issues or not lubed properly.

Very nice sunburst effect!

thanks bro! lighting plays an important part when it comes to beautiful sunburst dials!
 

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i did not have the opportunity to dig more information other then what he mentioned based on his experience when he did a full service on this new iwc rep movement.

the movement could well be purposed built for the upcoming floodgates of IWC reps, estimated around 20% of this new movement's build could be influenced from the PAM Superclone movt concept while the remaining 80% could be a mix of hybrid of either existing movements or totally new gears etc. i asked for his thoughts on the IWC 7-days versus the PAM Superclone movt in which he replied that this new movement has a better and well thought design as compared to the latter which has varying degrees of time-keeping issues, after service it kept good time as well.

however he did not mention anything on weakness like keyless issues or not lubed properly.



thanks bro! lighting plays an important part when it comes to beautiful sunburst dials!

Appreciate that, thanks. Will have to wait and see if anyone does a full tear down review sometime. Reluctant to do it with mine as I'm lucky to have one working flawlessly, apart from the crown coming out. That only happened once but I suspect the keyless works maybe under engineered slightly hence it coming out.
 

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i did not have the opportunity to dig more information other then what he mentioned based on his experience when he did a full service on this new iwc rep movement.

the movement could well be purposed built for the upcoming floodgates of IWC reps, estimated around 20% of this new movement's build could be influenced from the PAM Superclone movt concept while the remaining 80% could be a mix of hybrid of either existing movements or totally new gears etc. i asked for his thoughts on the IWC 7-days versus the PAM Superclone movt in which he replied that this new movement has a better and well thought design as compared to the latter which has varying degrees of time-keeping issues, after service it kept good time as well.

however he did not mention anything on weakness like keyless issues or not lubed properly.



thanks bro! lighting plays an important part when it comes to beautiful sunburst dials!

Lalaland? Sounds familar :)
I really like the Laureus and the sunburst effects. But close to 400USD to be thrown on a watch which I am not so sure about the movement. Coupled with the fact that I have no access to the few remaining watchsmiths in sillypore... Too bad.
So, more pictures of the Laureus please :)
 

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I have bought two from Ryan. I have checked every date on both and they are spot on.
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