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[Variatio Delectat]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but to me it seems as this.
Yes, some movements are failing but how many percent is it that fails? My guess is that it is fairly few?
My guess is that the ZF manufacturer puts a few hundred watches on the market every month. So if 10% fails it is still quite good.

Err... quite frankly I would not consider 10% "quite good" but fairly poor.

Besides, and that really is a show-stopper, I just had a look at the beautifully rounded hands of the gen and the... well, in comparison really ugly flat hands of the rep. Couldn't they make them at least close to the gen? :bang:

 

[britain4]

The watch is beautiful and I'd be more than happy with the aesthetics of it.

I'm concerned by the reason these movements are failing exactly? Is it due to a flaw in the design of the movement (so all of them have it coming sooner or later) or is it a handful of movements suffering a manufacturing flaw?

 

[britain4]

Also does anyone have any clue what movement it is /any compatibles so I could at least replace it and have a functioning watch if the existing one takes a dump down the line?

Or if there are any spares available for the one in there?

 

[thermalboyz]

So far no parts available (or only certain TD an get it) and movements is a new hybrid (combination of various types). We will see if watchsmith which had a chance to looks at the movement to feedback/report about the reliability.

Sent from my pigeon

 

[rhc22]

Besides, and that really is a show-stopper, I just had a look at the beautifully rounded hands of the gen and the... well, in comparison really ugly flat hands of the rep. Couldn't they make them at least close to the gen? :bang:

Gens also come with flat hands.

 

[Variatio Delectat]

Gens also come with flat hands.

Maybe some different models, but not these. You can even easily spot that on the IWC website.

 

[Cibbe]

I have just rejected a watch.. On your QC images. Take a good look at the numbers and their alignment.

 

[rhc22]

Maybe some different models, but not these. You can even easily spot that on the IWC website.

Just search IWC 5001 in google images

 

[eisbaer]

Damn, I was about to pull the trigger on one of these - sounds like maybe not such a good idea if the movements are failing :/

If you're concerned, don't do it. Or wait half a year and see how things turn out.

 

[Variatio Delectat]

Just search IWC 5001 in google images

Quite frankly, I prefer to trust the manufacturer's official images.

 

[rhc22]

Quite frankly, I prefer to trust the manufacturer's official images.

Your prerogative but you realise the images on IWC.com are photoshopped?

 

[britain4]

Seems to me a decorated ETA clone or even Jap movement would be a far better bet - I could personally even live with a non-working power reserve meter (and possibly not as gen accurate) if it meant having a tried and tested movement which is serviceable and repairable when it breaks...

 

[fishysquishy]

Maybe some different models, but not these. You can even easily spot that on the IWC website.

Hate to jump in here, and i might not be correct on this one but im pretty sure the only portuguese pr currently on the iwc website is the 5007 which is different in many ways then the 5001 (this has been discussed in much detail in previous pages) therefore i dont think you should be comparing the hands of this replica 5001 to the current 5007 if you want an accurate comparison..

 

[retrospex]

Hate to jump in here, and i might not be correct on this one but im pretty sure the only portuguese pr currently on the iwc website is the 5007 which is different in many ways then the 5001 (this has been discussed in much detail in previous pages) therefore i dont think you should be comparing the hands of this replica 5001 to the current 5007 if you want an accurate comparison..

This ^ right here.


Also, regarding a previous post about manufacturer's website images; they're ALL edited for the best picture presence and accuracy, i.e. Photoshop as someone mentioned. This is a bad idea for people who want to really know what the gen looks like online.
For those who are seriously interested in learning about any genuine piece, look at actual pictures and/or videos taken by people handling or wearing the watch you're curious about - gen forums are a good place to start, hodinkee, watchuwant, etc


Sent from my Noob 1:1 v6 edition iPhone super rep

 

[Variatio Delectat]

Hate to jump in here, and i might not be correct on this one but im pretty sure the only portuguese pr currently on the iwc website is the 5007 which is different in many ways then the 5001 (this has been discussed in much detail in previous pages) therefore i dont think you should be comparing the hands of this replica 5001 to the current 5007 if you want an accurate comparison..

Indeed I am not talking about the (aged) 5001. The latest models on e.g. Puretime's website are clearly marked as 5007.

 

[merowinger]

Its a 5001 rep...no matter what they say

 

[fishysquishy]

Indeed I am not talking about the (aged) 5001. The latest models on e.g. Puretime's website are clearly marked as 5007.

You are correct i forgot to mention in my response that although the dealers call it 5007 its clearly a 5001 thats what i meant by "it was discussed in alot of detail earlier".. To be honest if you were comparing it to the 5007 im quite surprised the only issues u came up with were the date hands.. As the movement is completely different the dial print, leather strap (rounded at lugs) and clasp are different as well..i don't remember who said this on an earlier page, but to quote him "think of this as a 5001 and 99% of the flaws will go away instantly" yes movement is diff but much better, clasp is spot on dial is spot on (except black dial the sub-dials are slightly shinier-minor flaw) and im not going to get started on the gold hallmarks or lack there off but basically in short this is a 5001 and a pretty darn good one too! imho

 

[lolo1972sg]

You are correct i forgot to mention in my response that although the dealers call it 5007 its clearly a 5001 thats what i meant by "it was discussed in alot of detail earlier".. To be honest if you were comparing it to the 5007 im quite surprised the only issues u came up with were the date hands.. As the movement is completely different the dial print, leather strap (rounded at lugs) and clasp are different as well..i don't remember who said this on an earlier page, but to quote him "think of this as a 5001 and 99% of the flaws will go away instantly" yes movement is diff but much better, clasp is spot on dial is spot on (except black dial the sub-dials are slightly shinier-minor flaw) and im not going to get started on the gold hallmarks or lack there off but basically in short this is a 5001 and a pretty darn good one too! imho

5001 rep for sure. So yes, dont compare this version to 5007 gen. But even if you take it as a 5001 rep, the back case still have some obvious flaws esp for the open case versions. Some of us posted a few pictures previously.

 

[hub6152]

Seems to me a decorated ETA clone or even Jap movement would be a far better bet - I could personally even live with a non-working power reserve meter (and possibly not as gen accurate) if it meant having a tried and tested movement which is serviceable and repairable when it breaks...

But ETA or Miyota automatics don't come with sub seconds (apart from an ETA 7750) and the whole point of the factory utilising whatever movement this is was to have a working PR sub dial. So you wish all you want!! And I'm not sure a figure of 10% failure rate is an accurate assessment either. We've no idea how many have actually been sold vs failures.

 

[MasterWatch]

Tried on the gen at SG airport yesterday. Might nice I have to say. Will place an order soon... For the rep of course [emoji12]