New patek philippe nautilus from ppf

[Tobel]

someone tried to fit on PPF the ring and the winding crown from PF version?

Don't think it would change anything. I checked and the crown from pf and PPF are almost exactly the same height. The reason why it doesn't stick out on the pf is that when fully screwed it goes under/into the crown guard, whereas there is no such space for it to come in on the PPF. So I guess either you'd need to shave the crown or to drill some sort of a hole in your PPF case to let it come in (and probably shorten the tube/stem. Not sure I'm being very clear but it's hard to explain Will try to take pics later

 

[Mark1937]

Don't think it would change anything. I checked and the crown from pf and PPF are almost exactly the same height. The reason why it doesn't stick out on the of is that when fully screwed it goes under/into the crown guard, whereas there is no such space for it to come in on the PPF. So I guess either you'd need to shave the crown or to drill some sort of a hole in your PPF case to let it come in (and probably shorten the tube/stem. Not sure I'm being very clear but it's hard to explain Will try to take pics later

I understand you! ;-)
about bezel? Is It possibile to switch PF/PPF?

 

[Tobel]

I understand you! ;-)
about bezel? Is It possibile to switch PF/PPF?

Ahaha thanks

Here are the pics to illustrate nonetheless. For the Bezel I don't know, someone needs to try. Now my problem is that I like the crystal of the PPF much better that the PF, but the probability that both the bezel and the crystal are interchangeable is super low. So for now I'm just going to enjoy it in its current state, which is a beautiful rep.

 

[marcoxxxx84]

Hi guys, I've just received today my 5711 white dial.

I'd say it's, really, quite good. I have the gen 5711 blue dial , from 2012, and I have compared some features between both.

I'll try to post a much more detailed comparison this weekend or middle of next week, of course including pics ( as soon as I could manage to use the tools here).


Btw, the thickness measured on PPF white was 8.55mm, and the thickness of gen was 8.43mm. It's quite amazing because the Sellita version I had for years ( that has a very good colour, but wrong piano pattern and plain but Swiss movmt) is 9.72mm.

If you allow me to say, comparing the movement of PPF and gen, it's really hard to spot big differences, even the gleaming is quite good on the PPF. I could note the missing screw head near the PP logo , though -- which also is an issue present on my ZF 5292 and I guess on every other ZF/PPF's. Anyway, it's very very hard to tell it's a replica !

As a little detail, besides the bezel issue, I guess I've figured out why the crown protrudes the way it does - to me seemed that the problem is not only the crown length but also the case indentation is too shallow.


Anyway, enjoy yours!

Wait for your review!!!!

 

[Jean_Paul_Belmondo]

I understand you! ;-)
about bezel? Is It possibile to switch PF/PPF?

Probably it is, you need a good modder to make mods like:
1) change the bezel
2) shorten the tube/stem and fix the crown
3) paint the side wall of the date window
4) change the date wheel.
Bonus) and if you are crazy with details probably relume it to a more gen white and not yellowish tone.

This is what I'm planning to do myself pretty soon.

Cheers!

 

[csthe]

Probably it is, you need a good modder to make mods like:
1) change the bezel
2) shorten the tube/stem and fix the crown
3) paint the side wall of the date window
4) change the date wheel.
Bonus) and if you are crazy with details probably relume it to a more gen white and not yellowish tone.

This is what I'm planning to do myself pretty soon.

Cheers!

Please review the process when you done!

 

[Mark1937]

Probably it is, you need a good modder to make mods like:
1) change the bezel
2) shorten the tube/stem and fix the crown
3) paint the side wall of the date window
4) change the date wheel.
Bonus) and if you are crazy with details probably relume it to a more gen white and not yellowish tone.

This is what I'm planning to do myself pretty soon.

Cheers!

If I put all movement PPF inside case PF?

 

[gilrob]

Hopefully PPF corrects all current flaws with a v2.

 

[Tobel]

Hopefully PPF corrects all current flaws with a v2.

I'm dreaming aboutit, they are so close with this v1 and in particular the dial. The bracelet is also amazing. But you know the principle of v2's: 1 step forward and 2 step backwards

 

[Keylog74]

Probably it is, you need a good modder to make mods like:
1) change the bezel
2) shorten the tube/stem and fix the crown
3) paint the side wall of the date window
4) change the date wheel.
Bonus) and if you are crazy with details probably relume it to a more gen white and not yellowish tone.

This is what I'm planning to do myself pretty soon.

Cheers!

I’ve done all the above mentioned to my PPF. Parts between PF&PPF are not interchangeable.

There is no man that can do a better job at reluming that machine, by this I mean that no better result can be achieved on the markers.

 

[Keylog74]

 

[KSwatches]

Really impressed with PPF (compared with PF, which just feels like cheap junk).

Here are some real life pictures for information.

I have no idea how this compares to gen. gen blue is very dynamic and there are lots of variants - most pictures I have seen of the gen are heavily edited or in artificial lighting, so it’s hard to define what gen should look like.

The blue dial is very dynamic. In some angles it looks almost black.

And in some angles/lighting is looks overly blue:

The watch feels super thin compared to PF and the bracelet (although still in plastic), feels quite flexible, unlike the rigid end-link MK version I had a while ago.

It’s a nice watch overall. The retro design of the Nautilus is not entirely to my taste...especially considering the gen price tag but at least we now have a 5711 rep that is wearable OTB (without requiring re-lume, custom DW, end-link mod etc)

 

[Chaosg]

Really impressed with PPF (compared with PF, which just feels like cheap junk).

Here are some real life pictures for information.

I have no idea how this compares to gen. gen blue is very dynamic and there are lots of variants - most pictures I have seen of the gen are heavily edited or in artificial lighting, so it’s hard to define what gen should look like.

The watch feels super thin compared to PF and the bracelet (although still in plastic), feels quite flexible, unlike the rigid end-link MK version I had a while ago.

It’s a nice watch overall. The retro design of the Nautilus is not entirely to my taste...especially considering the gen price tag but at least we now have a 5711 rep that is wearable OTB (without requiring re-lume, custom DW, end-link mod etc)

Wow, it seems really good, congrats!

What happened to the purple tint on the blue one ?

Can you get the purple tint under some lightning conditions? It's to know on which ones it does happen

cheers

 

[Chaosg]

Hi guys, this is just to finish the series of "first impressions" pics of PPF 5711 white when comparing it to the gen blue.

As I have explained, my idea was to give you the closest impression to the reality when it comes to HANDLE the watch. It's not meant for a real comparison in the smallest details.

Why that? , you would wonder. Well, kind of looked to me people would be so much into such an small detail that would forget about the whole picture and the experience itself of wearing it. Pls bear with me...


On the other hand, also added the idea of someone close to you checking into your watch or even getting it in his hands to check it out -- kind of not usual but possible, right? Maybe it might give you peace to wear and enjoy it?.... I dunno.


Please be assured I'm not against nipticking -- although we should understand its limits and how to manage it in order to not destroy your personal pleasure . Pointing out the smallest details is, IMHO, necessary to push the factories into the path we want, right? Otherwise I doubt we would be discussing this model now.


At the same time, the difference and the effort to make the good into the excellent could be sooooo big that could render it quite impossible. So, when the good is good enough? It's up to you, guys, to decide.


Anyway, too much talking and little showing. Let's make the pics speak for themselves.


First pic I've posted was intended to give you the feeling/impression about an issue quite stressed here - the thickness difference and how it was perceived to the eye ( not the macro lens!...)

Small difference noted is also due the angles, do not forget that.

I'm quite sad, if you allow me to say so, that the people that most complained about such thickness differences and how it could be easily spotted haven't showed up eventually. That's sad


See now the other pics taken with same angle.

As a bonus in the latter pic, you could also evaluate the bezel difference in real life... can you?

 

[Hinclimincli]

Hi guys, this is just to finish the series of "first impressions" pics of PPF 5711 white when comparing it to the gen blue.

As I have explained, my idea was to give you the closest impression to the reality when it comes to HANDLE the watch. It's not meant for a real comparison in the smallest details.

Why that? , you would wonder. Well, kind of looked to me people would be so much into such an small detail that would forget about the whole picture and the experience itself of wearing it. Pls bear with me...


On the other hand, also added the idea of someone close to you checking into your watch or even getting it in his hands to check it out -- kind of not usual but possible, right? Maybe it might give you peace to wear and enjoy it?.... I dunno.


Please be assured I'm not against nipticking -- although we should understand its limits and how to manage it in order to not destroy your personal pleasure . Pointing out the smallest details is, IMHO, necessary to push the factories into the path we want, right? Otherwise I doubt we would be discussing this model now.


At the same time, the difference and the effort to make the good into the excellent could be sooooo big that could render it quite impossible. So, when the good is good enough? It's up to you, guys, to decide.


Anyway, too much talking and little showing. Let's make the pics speak for themselves.


First pic I've posted was intended to give you the feeling/impression about an issue quite stressed here - the thickness difference and how it was perceived to the eye ( not the macro lens!...)

Small difference noted is also due the angles, do not forget that.

I'm quite sad, if you allow me to say so, that the people that most complained about such thickness differences and how it could be easily spotted haven't showed up eventually. That's sad


See now the other pics taken with same angle.

As a bonus in the latter pic, you could also evaluate the bezel difference in real life... can you?

Markers are too green in the blue Nautilus, you should have rejected it.

(I'm still laughing, what a great game good sir, hats off to you)

 

[KSwatches]

Wow, it seems really good, congrats!

What happened to the purple tint on the blue one ?

Can you get the purple tint under some lightning conditions? It's to know on which ones it does happen

cheers

Not sure what you mean about the purpose tint bro. The dial looks different in different lighting/angles etc. It’s very difficult to make comparison with the multiple gen variants because the colour changes depending on many variables.


Here are some lightbox pictures:

Looks pretty much like it could be a gen watch to me

 

[Cristobal]

KSwatches Nice!! Out of all the PPF models I have seen yours has been the best looking. Congrats!!

 

[Chaosg]

Not sure what you mean about the purpose tint bro. The dial looks different in different lighting/angles etc. It’s very difficult to make comparison with the multiple gen variants because the colour changes depending on many variables.


Here are some lightbox pictures:

Looks pretty much like it could be a gen watch to me

There's a thread about the blue one where several owners posted pieces received. You may see that some are quite purple in some light conditions.

I'd like to see if you could try to get the purple tint changing lightning conditions .

That would be a good test to see if model was upgraded already, bc some already pointed out that bezel and DW fonts looked upgraded already - is it the case?

cheers

 

[csthe]

I’ve done all the above mentioned to my PPF. Parts between PF&PPF are not interchangeable.

How can you done the above if the parts are not interchangeable?

 

[Chaosg]

Continuing....

Next pic is to show bracelet differences .

Some have pointed out that gens have different glow than reps . Well, of course it can be true. But, pls do not forget that those genuine watches you might have seen in the flesh were probably under special lightning conditions, correct?

Jewellery stores and AD have the lightning conditions to enhance what they are selling, i.e. jewellery and watches , and light is essential for the correct displaying of pieces.

Interesting that some have said that the replica had a gleaming to it and therefore should be gen instead. Do not worry, it happens , really.

You may have noticed that the image was taken as if the pieces were in front of your eyes - kind of weird a guy checking into your watch like that...but possible


So the other pic taken was:





BTW, pieces were not in the very same angle to camera.... quite difficult for me to do so and it DOES affect the perceived watch a bit.