New Overseas from JJF with (finally!) rubber straps!

[Z3BR4]

I stand corrected on the internal groove incline angle remark - saw your pics on the phone and it looked like the groove had less angled inner ridges than the gen, but after having the pic on the computer screen I can confirm that's not the case at all. Overall, the reproduction of the strap appears to be very faithfully done.

Good to hear that there are no gaps between the bezel and the case, I should have specified that I wasn't commenting on your pics but on the ones I saw on one of the dealer sites, my apologies for the confusion.

I agree that the medallion engraving detail level doesn't matter all that much while worn on the wrist. And of course, it would be unreasonable to demand the same degree of artistic execution from a massively cheaper replica, but all these points notwithstanding - this is still a valid observation - the dulled down engraving was actually the only thing that jumped out at me immediately when I saw the pic of this new Overseas rep.

As for the silver/white dial - I assure you that the dial is silver in colour and even though it appears white in some lighting conditions, especially indoors and with fluorescent lighting. If you look closely, it is definitely silvery white albeit with a lot less light play and refraction then the 14500 for example, which is also silvery, not white. I tried to take a picture to illustrate this but unfortunately the iPhone camera just doesn't capture the real life metallic sheen of either of the two watch dials:

What I'm getting at is that both of those dials are technically white, even as per the OEM description, but the machining of any metallic dial in the nature of both the AP and VC will produce a sheen that makes the dial appear as more of a silver. While I don't have a replica in hand of the new white dial, I can say that the Black dial can look both black and or completely graphite depending on how the light is being reflected. Based solely on this, I believe under normal light the white dial should appear more metallic or silvery in nature. The QC pictures I received for this watch and the lighting the rep dealers use when taking their marketing pictures don't really capture what is going on.

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[Phantomtech]

Thanks @Z3BR4 for the detailed review and photos, it looks awesome!


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[mbjoer]

Previous versions of the Overseas had beautifully made medalion engravings. It can be done, and for this watch it really is an important feature.
It's a shame that this one looks so completely Canal Street, when the rest of the watch is pretty good.

I agree that the medallion engraving detail level doesn't matter all that much while worn on the wrist. And of course, it would be unreasonable to demand the same degree of artistic execution from a massively cheaper replica, but all these points notwithstanding - this is still a valid observation - the dulled down engraving was actually the only thing that jumped out at me immediately when I saw the pic of this new Overseas rep.

 

[peterpl]

Man that does look freakin good. I will buy this soon - i think all dealers are having a hard time getting watches currently. Been waiting on QC for like 3 weeks now for my current order

 

[peterpl]

The caseback looks ok to me. This watch is so rare in real life and no-one even knows VC or has that indepth knowledge like Rolex guys so its basically impossible to call anyone out on this.

 

[SuperLory]

right, but as @mbjoer said the previous iteration was much more detailed (albeit it had the ANTIMACNETIC typo)

again it seems like they are opening the way to a v2 v3 vX milking..

 

[Eseips]

Good Photo´s, it looks amazing. Hope mine will arrive, soon. The caseback doesn´t look too bad in my opinion.
this is a genuine one i found on google:
http://perpetuelle.wpengine.netdna-.../2012/09/Vacheron-Overseas-Caseback-Motif.jpg
only the main body of th ship could be more detailed. not too bad though. The AR looks reasonably good, too.

 

[Z3BR4]

Yeah the hull of the ship doesn't have as much detail just not as distressed. Also the waves may be a bit less detailed but hardly noticeable.. and as others have stated, who on earth are you going to encounter that would know the difference, let alone someone that will see the back of the watch lol



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[Eseips]

Exactly. the case and face of the watch is like 95% genlike, maybe with a loupe you may find "tells". you´d need a gen and rep side by side to spot differences and even then it´s hard. for 99,99999999999% of the people this watch passes as gen. especially because hardly anyone out of watch forums like this know any watch-brands besides rolex, breitling and so on^^

 

[trends]

I'm very surprised by the crystal. Pics from dealers showed a very bad cristal / AR but on Z3BR4 pictures it's a different story...
I don't know what to think now.

 

[dan89]

@Z3BR4 the watch looks nice from your pics haha.

 

[mbjoer]

The caseback looks ok to me. This watch is so rare in real life and no-one even knows VC or has that indepth knowledge like Rolex guys so its basically impossible to call anyone out on this.

Compare it to this one, the replica of the Overseas Arabic (unfortunately no longer available): http://rwg.cc/topic/115255-sold-vc-overseas-arabic-dial/#comment-819000
It can be done, and such details give a watch a feel of quality ... or not as might be...

 

[peterpl]

Thats not even the same watch though?

Yeah I think I would rather have correct spelling than slightly deeper engravings. Someone going to read that ANTIMACNETIC and go WTF is that.

 

[peterpl]

I'm very surprised by the crystal. Pics from dealers showed a very bad cristal / AR but on Z3BR4 pictures it's a different story...

Yeah the AR looks awesome actually. Quite good

 

[trends]

Anyone bought the white dial yet ?
If yes please post pictures !


Edited : just ordered one...

 

[Z3BR4]

Yeah the AR looks awesome actually. Quite good

The AR surprised me, I thought for sure I'd be sending it for new AR, but this is very acceptable for me. It isn't aftermarket quality but it is pretty damn good, especially at certain angles, the crystal completely disappears and the dial really pops. I don't know if I mentioned lume before but it's rather poor, I don't know how the gen is but I may get it relumed..

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[peterpl]

These are out of stock already - Just tried to order one

 

[Phantomtech]

These are out of stock already - Just tried to order one

Thats great news! Hopefully a v2 soon!

 

[dan89]

These are out of stock already - Just tried to order one

great news actually, let's hope a V2 rather than a new batch haha.

 

[ZoomBoy]

Let's hope V2 had a bracelet!