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New ORF SMPc 300m A8800 released today

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Is the consensus opinion that the ORF version is better than VSF's? I've been waiting for a while to pick up a VSF but this looks amazing.
 

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So I went back to the TD and relayed the differences and they are claiming they spoke to the factory about it ... And ORF confirmed that it is "their watch" and that this batch has differences and cannot guarantee a return to previous versions (sounds like the raids had an impact)

That really sounds like a load of crap to me. So....the case is different, the dial is different, the movement is different, the date wheel is different....this isn't just a "different batch", it's a different watch entirely - one who shares little (if any) common parts with either ORF or VSF. I think you have a strong case to get your money back or the proper watch in your hands. You're being lied to by your TD.
 
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That really sounds like a load of crap to me. So....the case is different, the dial is different, the movement is different, the date wheel is different....this isn't just a "different batch", it's a different watch entirely - one who shares little (if any) common parts with either ORF or VSF. I think you have a strong case to get your money back or the proper watch in your hands. You're being lied to by your TD.

This and no one else can get a black face for love nor money right now from ORF. There's not one other example of this build watch being passed as ORF anywhere else. Definitely been had.
 

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On thinking about mirortimes response I agree it is bullshit. They are feeding you a line! Only thing on that watch from ORF is the bracelet. They have effectively scammed you buddy!

This watch is defo the fake VSF that are floating around. It has all the hallmarks of it having watched a comparison video on youku where a guy shows a gen VSF and the copy of it!


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On thinking about mirortimes response I agree it is bullshit. They are feeding you a line! Only thing on that watch from ORF is the bracelet. They have effectively scammed you buddy!

This watch is defo the fake VSF that are floating around. It has all the hallmarks of it having watched a comparison video on youku where a guy shows a gen VSF and the copy of it!


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Got the vid? Curious what the price on that one was ... W all the discounts it wouldn't shock me they went with something to cut their losses

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Got my ORF in today. Everything is better than VSF as far as I can see initially. Dial, lume (white), bracelet (better finished), rubber strap (MUCH better! more comfortable and supple), and movement (better finish and regulator) are all improved. Pics:

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Got my ORF in today. Everything is better than VSF as far as I can see initially. Dial, lume (white), bracelet (better finished), rubber strap (MUCH better! more comfortable and supple), and movement (better finish and regulator) are all improved. Pics:


Looks amazing, which vendor? You got me sold on one.
 

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OldNavitimer watch is looking great! How is the crown on these? My VSF’s was never great and is now very close to not screwing in anymore. Please tel me these are better as well.
 

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Replisimio I wasnt aware of that being a gen issue as well. That sucks quite a bit. I guess I would have to bite the bullet some time and get one of these.
 

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Replisimio I wasnt aware of that being a gen issue as well. That sucks quite a bit. I guess I would have to bite the bullet some time and get one of these.

Tends to happen when people overtighten them every time they screw the crown back in mainly on watches that don’t get worn everyday so suffer more from regular time setting etc.


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VSF, more than any other rep manufacturer I know of, tends to have crown/stem/tube issues. I've had multiple SMP (both steel and ceramic), Planet Ocean, and Aqua Terras with these issues. Wobbly crowns on anything 43.5mm and up are standard fare, straight from the factory. All my watches are stored on winders, and still I have the problem. VSF don't seem to have a problem with their Rolex line, though. Go figure.

Because of my multiple crown failures, I always rotate the crown backwards to find the lip of the thread, before screwing down clockwise. And I take it slow and deliberate. There's not much worse than your favourite rep getting ruined because of stripped tube threads - replacement is cost-prohibitive.

The crown on my ORF seems pretty solid. You can feel the difference between deep cut threads and shallow threads.
 

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Does anyone have an idea when these are back in stock? Every td has a different answer


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Does anyone know if the orf bracelet fits the vsf watch? The only letdown I have with the vsf is the SELs.... they just don't match the bracelet
 

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Does anyone know if the orf bracelet fits the vsf watch? The only letdown I have with the vsf is the SELs.... they just don't match the bracelet

Yes it does, I’ve done it and also the orf rubber strap fits nicely and much easier than the VSF with no need to bend spring bars etc.


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How is the bracelet and clasp compared to the vsf? I found the vsf very sharp and had to spend quite a while with my Bergeon stick to fix it. Otherwise I find the vsf bracelet really nice...