NEW NTTD No Time to Die Titanium/Titanium Seamaster 007 Edition

[imranbecks]

Excuse the nails, but inaccurate clasp and mesh aside, does the V2 mesh look brushed or am I seeing things?

 

[correllian G]

Found an interesting article on the complexity of the NTTD Mesh.

"Here the wire is in titanium Grade 2, and has a section of 0.9 millimetre. As for how we make the bracelet, we have a huge 0.9 titanium wire on a spool, it can be kilometres long, and then it goes into another machine which coils the wire and we make a mesh carpet. So you have carpets of 30 centimetres by 50 centimetres."

"Then we press the bracelet in a machine so it's tighter. The stamping tool determines the size - as the bracelet for this watch is 20 millimetres and at the case and 18 millimetres at the end, so you need a different stamping to do that. And after this you have the soldiering for the end of the bracelet. Then it's a polished and pressed again. The cleaning to avoid oxidation. Then we sandblast."

Monachon's revelation that the mesh bracelet, unusual for a Milanese design, is two millimetres thicker at the watch head than at the clasp shows some design swagger from Omega. This is not easy.

"Usually, when you do mesh bracelets, they are always parallel - 20mm at the beginning of the bracelet and 20mm at the end. Here the elements are less close at the watch head than at the end. So it's an improvement. It's closer to the bracelet on the current collection with the end element where the clasp is always thinner than the watch head."

Monachon says the bracelet design has been in development since September 2018. An initial untapered prototype was produced back in March this year. After this, it was decided that Omega would attempt the new 20-18 shape on the bracelet. "This took us until the beginning of July. Then we started the production in September," he says.

How is the watch's thinner end created? The stamping tool placed on each side of the bracelet already has the desired shape, being wider at one end. Omega then press it from left to right and from right to left. This operation is then repeated three times to get the finished uneven width mesh result.

AKA it took Omega themselves 1 year to be able to do this...
It is brilliant.. if omega decided to sell the bracelet itself i would probably snap it up for a reasonable price.

 

[imranbecks]

Found an interesting article on the complexity of the NTTD Mesh.

"Here the wire is in titanium Grade 2, and has a section of 0.9 millimetre. As for how we make the bracelet, we have a huge 0.9 titanium wire on a spool, it can be kilometres long, and then it goes into another machine which coils the wire and we make a mesh carpet. So you have carpets of 30 centimetres by 50 centimetres."

"Then we press the bracelet in a machine so it's tighter. The stamping tool determines the size - as the bracelet for this watch is 20 millimetres and at the case and 18 millimetres at the end, so you need a different stamping to do that. And after this you have the soldiering for the end of the bracelet. Then it's a polished and pressed again. The cleaning to avoid oxidation. Then we sandblast."

Monachon's revelation that the mesh bracelet, unusual for a Milanese design, is two millimetres thicker at the watch head than at the clasp shows some design swagger from Omega. This is not easy.

"Usually, when you do mesh bracelets, they are always parallel - 20mm at the beginning of the bracelet and 20mm at the end. Here the elements are less close at the watch head than at the end. So it's an improvement. It's closer to the bracelet on the current collection with the end element where the clasp is always thinner than the watch head."

Monachon says the bracelet design has been in development since September 2018. An initial untapered prototype was produced back in March this year. After this, it was decided that Omega would attempt the new 20-18 shape on the bracelet. "This took us until the beginning of July. Then we started the production in September," he says.

How is the watch's thinner end created? The stamping tool placed on each side of the bracelet already has the desired shape, being wider at one end. Omega then press it from left to right and from right to left. This operation is then repeated three times to get the finished uneven width mesh result.

AKA it took Omega themselves 1 year to be able to do this...
It is brilliant.. if omega decided to sell the bracelet itself i would probably snap it up for a reasonable price.

Yes i remember reading that from one of the websites when the watch was first unveiled. But it can still be done. The Staib steel mesh posted in the previous pages is by far the closest to the Omega mesh from the metal weave to the tapering.

 

[Arachnoidosis]

imranbecks Here you are my friend. On a cheapy DH gate speedy, but still gets the idea across. Not a bad band but clearly not Omega or Staib.

 

[imranbecks]

imranbecks Here you are my friend. On a cheapy DH gate speedy, but still gets the idea across. Not a bad band but clearly not Omega or Staib.

Thanks for the pics. How secure is that clasp? Still unclear how it's clasped in.

Is it something like this?

 

[MrBurgundy]

Found an interesting article on the complexity of the NTTD Mesh.

"Here the wire is in titanium Grade 2, and has a section of 0.9 millimetre. As for how we make the bracelet, we have a huge 0.9 titanium wire on a spool, it can be kilometres long, and then it goes into another machine which coils the wire and we make a mesh carpet. So you have carpets of 30 centimetres by 50 centimetres."

"Then we press the bracelet in a machine so it's tighter. The stamping tool determines the size - as the bracelet for this watch is 20 millimetres and at the case and 18 millimetres at the end, so you need a different stamping to do that. And after this you have the soldiering for the end of the bracelet. Then it's a polished and pressed again. The cleaning to avoid oxidation. Then we sandblast."

Monachon's revelation that the mesh bracelet, unusual for a Milanese design, is two millimetres thicker at the watch head than at the clasp shows some design swagger from Omega. This is not easy.

"Usually, when you do mesh bracelets, they are always parallel - 20mm at the beginning of the bracelet and 20mm at the end. Here the elements are less close at the watch head than at the end. So it's an improvement. It's closer to the bracelet on the current collection with the end element where the clasp is always thinner than the watch head."

Monachon says the bracelet design has been in development since September 2018. An initial untapered prototype was produced back in March this year. After this, it was decided that Omega would attempt the new 20-18 shape on the bracelet. "This took us until the beginning of July. Then we started the production in September," he says.

How is the watch's thinner end created? The stamping tool placed on each side of the bracelet already has the desired shape, being wider at one end. Omega then press it from left to right and from right to left. This operation is then repeated three times to get the finished uneven width mesh result.

AKA it took Omega themselves 1 year to be able to do this...
It is brilliant.. if omega decided to sell the bracelet itself i would probably snap it up for a reasonable price.

Wow, what a process! It really is a gorgeous bracelet.

Regarding your last point, Omega are definitely going to be selling the bracelet by itself. Was told by a couple of boutiques around a month ago (before they closed) that they're on order but they're understandably not certain of a timeframe for delivery. Pricing for the Ti bracelet (including buckle) will be ≈ $2000AUD/$1200USD.

 

[Arachnoidosis]

imranbecks

https://imgur.com/na2ndok

 

[Arachnoidosis]

Wow, what a process! It really is a gorgeous bracelet.

Regarding your last point, Omega are definitely going to be selling the bracelet by itself. Was told by a couple of boutiques around a month ago (before they closed) that they're on order but they're understandably not certain of a timeframe for delivery. Pricing for the Ti bracelet (including buckle) will be ≈ $2000AUD/$1200USD.

That is honestly not nearly as bad as I was expecting. I think the gen bracelet + a V3/4/5/whatever with a titanium case will be in my future at some point down the road

 

[DonnyDB10]

That is honestly not nearly as bad as I was expecting. I think the gen bracelet + a V3/4/5/whatever with a titanium case will be in my future at some point down the road

I agree, we just got to hope the case color matches the genuine Omega band.

 

[Mrpong]

In certain natural lighting angel, the gen looks so brown

 

[imranbecks]

Wow, what a process! It really is a gorgeous bracelet.

Regarding your last point, Omega are definitely going to be selling the bracelet by itself. Was told by a couple of boutiques around a month ago (before they closed) that they're on order but they're understandably not certain of a timeframe for delivery. Pricing for the Ti bracelet (including buckle) will be ≈ $2000AUD/$1200USD.

Wow at that price I'd rather spend on a staib or just stick with the rep Omega mesh or just hope VSF producers a mesh that is as close as you can get to the gen. Feeling hopeful.

 

[imranbecks]

imranbecks

https://imgur.com/na2ndok

Oh. Wow. Thanks for that. It's so much clearer now. For a fantasy Omega mesh, I guess that's not so bad. Looks thick too. First time I've seen a mesh with a clasp like that. It's usually the hook and closure type of clasp and sizing like the one i posted in my previous post. This is different and straightforward.

 

[Azazel]

I dont know, but this “buckle” looks to me better then original with holes, becouse u can better size it imho

 

[nikoel]

Wow, what a process! It really is a gorgeous bracelet.

Regarding your last point, Omega are definitely going to be selling the bracelet by itself. Was told by a couple of boutiques around a month ago (before they closed) that they're on order but they're understandably not certain of a timeframe for delivery. Pricing for the Ti bracelet (including buckle) will be ≈ $2000AUD/$1200USD.

Two thousand dollarydoos?!?! The amount of work that went into those is of course awe inspiring but I can have a second hand entry level [genuine] speedmaster for that kind of money
Judging by this amount, this makes me believe that Omega is confident in how unique and desirable that mesh is

There goes my dream of owning a genuine bracelet for this watch - might have to settle for the aftermarket version after-all

 

[Lagunax]

I actually think if I were to get the V2, since I’m not that much of a NATO guy and the rep bracelet isn’t up to par, that I would pair it with this vintage tropic rubber look strap, I think the combination would look great. And at a later point pick up a better rep bracelet if they even made it.

https://www.watchgecko.com/vintage-tropical-style-rubber-watch-strap-by-zuludiver

 

[nikoel]

In certain natural lighting angel, the gen looks so brown

It's that, or judging by the warmth of the entire photo someone, in adobe lightroom adjusted it way towards the yellow spectrum to give it that slight vintage look. Thus pushing the greys towards the brown

 

[KSwatches]

It's that, or judging by the warmth of the entire photo someone, in adobe lightroom adjusted it way towards the yellow spectrum to give it that slight vintage look. Thus pushing the greys towards the brown

Exactly.

Practically all gen images and videos online have been touched up to bring out the warm vintage hues. Bet it looks nothing like the pics in natural light 99% of the time.

 

[imranbecks]

I dont know, but this “buckle” looks to me better then original with holes, becouse u can better size it imho

You're not wrong there. The problem with the gen mesh is that some people might not be able to get the right size. It can be either too tight or too loose. But not everyone would face this problem. Wrist shape and size plays a part. But the clasp is very secure. The rep has the flip clasp and no hooks holding on to the clasp for extra security. If during wear, those rare instances where it gets knocked or catches into something and it flips open, the watch might just fall off.

Both have their pros and cons I suppose.

 

[mech500]

In certain natural lighting angel, the gen looks so brown

That photo is NOT natural lighting. It is heavily filtered.

You can make the rep look just as brown by adjusting the colour filters.

 

[imranbecks]

These are my photos when I tried on the gen a couple of months ago. I took two shots, one under the direct light of the boutique, and another under a bit of shadow.... No touch ups or filters here.

Alongside my Spectre Aqua Terra which will also be worn by Bond in No Time To Die by the way...