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New generation of 44mm LUMINOR casesets - **[ QC pics allowed ]**

kampachi

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Looks like mine:

Toro insists that this is the latest case from H-factory. I guess H-factory still uses the old cases for the 005.

If this indeed is your watch then it is the latest case judging from the lug position. The reason we thought your case was an old one is because you posted this as part of your qc pictures.

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kampachi

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Okay, i've done a diagram showing flaws on the NEW H-FACTORY caseset. Hopefully this summary can assist members to study their QC pictures better. Please remember that this is a very 'ANAL-istic' observation and i tend to pin point all the minuscule flaws. One of the main issues brought up during discussions is the bezel thickness. I can attest that even a good batch of the case has thick bezels, maybe slightly thinner but still thick. Some of the QC pictures showing thin bezels are due to the angle. The case has sharp edges and this results to the case having a really refined look but it is not accurate as Gen/Noob has softer edges. Another main issue (not flaw but finishing) that i am being very anal of is the crownguard finishing. You can instantly spot the difference between a HFAC and Noob/Gen cg. The brushing is different and there should be a very light bevel surrounding the corners of the inner cg. Another one would be the lug hole. One of them is positioned too far from the edge and that bugged me alot! Anyway, hope the diagram will let you understand the HFAC case better.

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myor

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Great post kampachi! I'm sure many will appreciate your effort like I do.
 

joe_chill

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If this indeed is your watch then it is the latest case judging from the lug position. The reason we thought your case was an old one is because you posted this as part of your qc pictures.

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Sorry, that was the 112 that was supposed to be h-factory newest case also.
 

kampachi

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Thanks mate. I hope to see more Noob pictures though. Kinda curious whats brewing in their factory lately.

Anyway, one last pic of my modded hfac 411. Its going to a new owner soon.
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joe_chill

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Thanks mate. I hope to see more Noob pictures though. Kinda curious whats brewing in their factory lately.

Anyway, one last pic of my modded hfac 411. Its going to a new owner soon.
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That bad boy is nice, I was really tempted.
 

md04041

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Nice info for members like me searching for the 1st rep. :)
 

winz

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Okay, i've done a diagram showing flaws on the NEW H-FACTORY caseset. Hopefully this summary can assist members to study their QC pictures better. Please remember that this is a very 'ANAL-istic' observation and i tend to pin point all the minuscule flaws. One of the main issues brought up during discussions is the bezel thickness. I can attest that even a good batch of the case has thick bezels, maybe slightly thinner but still thick. Some of the QC pictures showing thin bezels are due to the angle. The case has sharp edges and this results to the case having a really refined look but it is not accurate as Gen/Noob has softer edges. Another main issue (not flaw but finishing) that i am being very anal of is the crownguard finishing. You can instantly spot the difference between a HFAC and Noob/Gen cg. The brushing is different and there should be a very light bevel surrounding the corners of the inner cg. Another one would be the lug hole. One of them is positioned too far from the edge and that bugged me alot! Anyway, hope the diagram will let you understand the HFAC case better.

Anal.jpg

If i want better rep, i must avoid h-fact pam?
 

mysterio

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The lever pin not being centered on the CG is not a flaw. Of the 5 PAM113/114 gen pictures, they are all not centered (in fact all of them are positioned higher on the CG relative to where the center is).
 

kampachi

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The lever pin not being centered on the CG is not a flaw. Of the 5 PAM113/114 gen pictures, they are all not centered (in fact all of them are positioned higher on the CG relative to where the center is).

Hi mate. Sorry for not making it clear :) I mean centered horizontally, not vertically. It's placed a little to the left.
 

mysterio

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Hi mate. Sorry for not making it clear :) I mean centered horizontally, not vertically. It's placed a little to the left.

I see. But this is also not centered horizontally (and also a bit to the left). :)

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kampachi

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I see. But this is also not centered horizontally (and also a bit to the left). :)

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You are right my friend. After googling, looks like they do have some series with left inclined pins. Thanks for the info and one less flaw for all of us. However, still think the right side has too much space.. probably too thick lol
 

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Okay, i've done a diagram showing flaws on the NEW H-FACTORY caseset. Hopefully this summary can assist members to study their QC pictures better. Please remember that this is a very 'ANAL-istic' observation and i tend to pin point all the minuscule flaws. One of the main issues brought up during discussions is the bezel thickness. I can attest that even a good batch of the case has thick bezels, maybe slightly thinner but still thick. Some of the QC pictures showing thin bezels are due to the angle. The case has sharp edges and this results to the case having a really refined look but it is not accurate as Gen/Noob has softer edges. Another main issue (not flaw but finishing) that i am being very anal of is the crownguard finishing. You can instantly spot the difference between a HFAC and Noob/Gen cg. The brushing is different and there should be a very light bevel surrounding the corners of the inner cg. Another one would be the lug hole. One of them is positioned too far from the edge and that bugged me alot! Anyway, hope the diagram will let you understand the HFAC case better.

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Gen M-series crownguard

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joe_chill

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Just got mine from Toro and it looks good. FYI, if you order a h-factory, don't go for the rubber strap. It reeks of mold.
 

winz

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Just got mine from Toro and it looks good. FYI, if you order a h-factory, don't go for the rubber strap. It reeks of mold.

Yup, my h-fact accordion rubber strap bad, my strap broken off :(
 

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I bought the HFac updated case a few months ago and I have to tell you I wish i went with the noob v4 case. I now have a HFac modded case being sent to me from a member on here who smoothed out the edges of the bevel and the edges of the watch to look 99.9% gen.

Ultimately I would like to get a V4 noob case and have it moved and polished to spec of a gen. Im learning more and more about this hobby due to threads like this one and research and observations of my own. Keep it up guys.
 

kampachi

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###EDIT: After further study, this could be a noob v3 but with updated case and cg(?). However the lever fitting is bad) ###

Now this is something new.. derived the pics from one of the member's qc. Watch below is a KW. Looks like a nice updated case however with the old terrible crown guard (bad lever fitting and the hole in the crown guard is too big. Lug holes seems fixed though. Hopefully they will throw in a Noob standard cg and i believe they are the real winner for the WHO HAS THE BEST 111 competition :D unless Noob throws in their v4 on the 111.

So at the moment, flaws for KW (imo) is short lever tip, bad lever fitting and bad crown guard shape. Can't really evaluate the case here but looks good to me.

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