New Clean Factory DJ41 3235

[Exilimx]

I have had in hand, or currently have in hand, 8-10 VS3235 and VR3235 movements. All of which I have seen no odd noises nor gritty feeling in manual function and auto function. (Meaning setting, winding, and when the rotor spins)

4-5 recent VR3135’s as well and no issues I can report.

I suppose the take away here is this: when someone has a negative experience they tell an average of 10 people. When someone has a positive experience they tell an average of 3 people. Meaning it’s more likely you’ll hear negative feedback and much less likely you hear positive. But I assure you there are far more positive experiences that are yet unheard.

So movement feeling (of rotor, when „shaking“ in hand) should be almost identical to gen and the other reps?

-If everthing is all right with the movement.

 

[Storm.]

I will be doing the same for sure. If I could find a gen one for 1000-1500 I’d just go that route, but they are 2k+ and I can’t justify that. Not saying they aren’t worth it, just not for me.

Yea same. I've had discussions about gen shape dadada but tbh the gold bezel on Gen isn't as sharp anymore after a year of wear or two so idc

 

[Storm.]

So movement feeling (of rotor, when „shaking“ in hand) should be almost identical to gen and the other reps?

-If everthing is all right with the movement.

Rotor always needs to be fattened/oiled.

Movement should always be checked.

 

[Seadwellermike]

So movement feeling (of rotor, when „shaking“ in hand) should be almost identical to gen and the other reps?

-If everthing is all right with the movement.

Honestly if you expect the same silence and smoothness from a Chinese copy of an in-house Swiss made (of different actual materials and with different tolerances, etc) you’d be disappointed.

If you expect CLOSE TO that, you’ll be happy. They are close, but will not be identical in any measurable way (from sound/decibels of the rotor and escapement to resistance/grit in turning the crown and hands).

It’s 1/20th the cost (or whatever) so reality should lead you to 1/20th the experience. The fact that we are at 90% of the experience for so 5% the cost, all should be impressed.

 

[Seadwellermike]

Movement should always be checked. (And serviced)

And this, 100%

 

[Storm.]

Honestly if you expect the same silence and smoothness from a Chinese copy of an in-house Swiss made (of different actual materials and with different tolerances, etc) you’d be disappointed.

If you expect CLOSE TO that, you’ll be happy. They are close, but will not be identical in any measurable way (from sound/decibels of the rotor and escapement to resistance/grit in turning the crown and hands).

It’s 1/20th the cost (or whatever) so reality should lead you to 1/20th the experience. The fact that we are at 90% of the experience for so 5% the cost, all should be impressed.

Absolutely.

A gen movement is always solid but smooth, be it winding or setting time.

With my revisioned noob movement it is wayyyyyy different than my small service btf.

My cf Datejust sometimes feels very smooth and solid, sometimes it feels like I'm gonna break the movement

 

[Exilimx]

Honestly if you expect the same silence and smoothness from a Chinese copy of an in-house Swiss made (of different actual materials and with different tolerances, etc) you’d be disappointed.

If you expect CLOSE TO that, you’ll be happy. They are close, but will not be identical in any measurable way (from sound/decibels of the rotor and escapement to resistance/grit in turning the crown and hands).

It’s 1/20th the cost (or whatever) so reality should lead you to 1/20th the experience. The fact that we are at 90% of the experience for so 5% the cost, all should be impressed.

My expectation is not gen identical

Just wanted to figure out if movement feels like a normal eta entry level movement.

 

[Seadwellermike]

My expectation is not gen identical

Just wanted to figure out if movement feels like a normal eta entry level movement.

If comparing a CLONE Rolex 3235 to a GEN ETA28xx for instance, yes the clone 3235 will feel smoother to the user, but that is because it’s different mechanically, not built better. The ETA in that comparison is built better (arguably)

If comparing a gen 3235 to a clone 28xxx, there is no comparison other than they both tell time. (IMHO)

 

[Holy0ne]

https://imgur.com/a/SA03nCH

Hi guys, could anyone help me identify if this has v2 bezel and hands?

V2 Bezel, but V1 handsn. Im not sure about Cyclops for V2

 

[exilen]

V2 Bezel, but V1 handsn. Im not sure about Cyclops for V2

V2 Bezel, but V1 handsn. Im not sure about Cyclops for V2

V2 Bezel, but V1 handsn. Im not sure about Cyclops for V2

 

[exilen]

V2 Bezel, but V1 handsn. Im not sure about Cyclops for V2

How can you see that it is v2 bezel?

Could anyone else also help verify?

 

[Holy0ne]

How can you see that it is v2 bezel?

Could anyone else also help verify?

V1 thicker.

 

[Rollingbatman]

What do you think on this QC - GL? , hands looks V1

 

[Rollingbatman]

What do you think on this QC - GL? , hands looks V1

Another pic which did t upload first time

 

[Feefo]

What do you think on this QC - GL? , hands looks V1

Please read the QC rules, we can't GL for you. You have one specific issue, then ask about that. But asking if it's overall OK and even for GL is a big no-no.

 

[Rollingbatman]

Please read the QC rules, we can't GL for you. You have one specific issue, then ask about that. But asking if it's overall OK and even for GL is a big no-no.

Understood , I should have put a question regarding the hands. Look like V1 to me, bezel and the crystal seem V2 to me. What you guys think of the hands and cyclops?

 

[Feefo]

Hands are V1. For the rest, I'll leave the stage for the members with keener eyes.

 

[Seadwellermike]

How can you see that it is v2 bezel?

Could anyone else also help verify?

I feel like these need to be posted once on every page:

 

[Exilimx]

If comparing a CLONE Rolex 3235 to a GEN ETA28xx for instance, yes the clone 3235 will feel smoother to the user, but that is because it’s different mechanically, not built better. The ETA in that comparison is built better (arguably)

If comparing a gen 3235 to a clone 28xxx, there is no comparison other than they both tell time. (IMHO)

I spend the last days reading trough couple of info-pages. What I get from several explanations is that 3235 seems to be louder in general.
Also compared to 28xx, due to the additonal bearing.

So loud 3235 movement seems to be normal, even if it feels unexpected if you never had a 3235 in hand before.

 

[techno89]

If you were going to do a Franken DJ41 with gen dial, hands, xtal, and DW, would you use a CF as a base or VSF?

Any thoughts? @KJ2020 or @Storm.