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koppy

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You cant really go by pictures, there are way too many variations, unless you put all 3 watches in the same room, ligh ect, even then it wont be 100% same. These pictures are all in different lighting conditions
With the minute hands, angles play a part, someone has already done a picture comparison, and the minute hands look smaller, larger depending on angles off pictures.

Thats why pictures dont always work, Its the actual people who have these all in hand, that can actually tell you!
 
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You cant really go by pictures, there are way too many variations, unless you put all 3 watches in the same room, ligh ect, even then it wont be 100% same. These pictures are all in different lighting conditions
With the minute hands, angles play a part, someone has already done a picture comparison, and the minute hands look smaller, larger depending on angles off pictures.

Thats why pictures dont always work, Its the actual people who have these all in hand, that can actually tell you!

To be fair I'll take the second hand length comment back - on my new image they're all over the markers.

If there's a variance in colour its batch not factory - we're all being told that CLEAN provide bezels for all three.
 

koppy

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Thats true, like all batches theres going to to variation, some bad and some good. either way we have some off the best gmts for years
 
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koppy

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There's no White gasket on the c+, this is a very very good crystal.
 

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There's no White gasket on the c+, this is a very very good crystal.

Same as the GMF then...

But that's not a crystal replacement that's a gasket replacement - why the hate on the clean crystal? I don't see it?
 

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and also look at the white halo on this CLEAN.... In fact no - this is gen :rolleyes:


 

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Keep in mind these pics show a V1 Clean with milky xtal. The current versions have a new crystal which is much better. I'm not seeing much that would differenetiate the C+ vs. Clean V2.
 
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Same as the GMF then...

But that's not a crystal replacement that's a gasket replacement - why the hate on the clean crystal? I don't see it?
The clean crystal is very low quality with poor transparency, cloudy is the best way to describe it. The C+ is supposedly using a 'deep' crystal which from my experience is actually more transparent than gen, for example where used on the BTF Daytona. Although I believe it might be due to AR coating being applied both front and rear.
 

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The clean crystal is very low quality with poor transparency, cloudy is the best way to describe it. The C+ is supposedly using a 'deep' crystal which from my experience is actually more transparent than gen, for example where used on the BTF Daytona. Although I believe it might be due to AR coating being applied both front and rear.
Have a V2 crystal on hard and this is hardly true. Do you have one in person for comparison or going by what you hear? Prior crystals yes, but on their recent batches, it has been much improved to the point where if you are not going gen for the sake of saying you have a gen, then there is no point in wasting money on these after market crystals.
 

vodamerc

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Have a V2 crystal on hard and this is hardly true. Do you have one in person for comparison or going by what you hear? Prior crystals yes, but on their recent batches, it has been much improved to the point where if you are not going gen for the sake of saying you have a gen, then there is no point in wasting money on these after market crystals.
Yes I have a v2 in person and also have a deep crystal on hand which I have test fitted. Clean has the same problem with the Daytona crystal. It's cloudy and lacks transparancy compared to gen. The only thing 'fixed' with the v2 clean crystal is the beveled edge to reflect the minute markers.
 

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Wanna see one side-by-side my watches before I drink the Kool-Aid.

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The clean crystal is very low quality with poor transparency, cloudy is the best way to describe it. The C+ is supposedly using a 'deep' crystal which from my experience is actually more transparent than gen, for example where used on the BTF Daytona. Although I believe it might be due to AR coating being applied both front and rear.
The ones on C+ is not Deep I'm afraid.

But it's definitely better than the clean v1(milky edge+cloudy Cyclops) and V2 (no milky edges and less cloudy) Cyclops.

Deep has a much stronger black hole effect and clarity to the Cyclops.

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The ones on C+ is not Deep I'm afraid.

But it's definitely better than the clean v1(milky edge+cloudy Cyclops) and V2 (no milky edges and less cloudy) Cyclops.

Deep has a much stronger black hole effect and clarity to the Cyclops.

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Hello, please pardon my ignorance as still trying to learn all the terms here in rwi.. May I ask what’s the meaning of black hole effect? Thank you!
 

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WHOOOAAAA! Nice insert colours. *starts drooling*

Yes - to me this begs the question should we be buying VRF?

Their SD43's and DSSD's are market leading. Ignore me - got mixed up lol

As far as im concerned id rather have the biggest tell sorted (bezel insert) and settle for any tiny inaccuracy's of the VRF case etc.

So...... what flaws does VRF have that made us all run to CLEAN like sheep?
 
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