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Spinman

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That insert looks nice too. Too bad I can't zoom in on the pic.

Beautiful watch. It's really nice seeing all of these TC Rouge's pop up in this thread!
 

Asmodeus

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id say the Crystal CleAR crystals themselves are on the same quality level as the Profs, Startime, and some of the other generic sapphire crystals you can buy. The difference between prof/CC and those generic ones is the AR coating. The generic ones either dont use AR, or have some really bad AR on them.

as for being gen spec, Crystal CleAR isnt trying to make replica crystals. In fact, they have been adamant that they arent a "Replica Parts Supplier". They are just providing quality sapphire crystals with their AR coatings applied to them.

Like was said, if you want gen spec with a replica LEC and an xtal that is exactly like the gen, Asmodeus has a great solution. They arent really competitors, since Asmo is focusing on one xtal to be exactly like the real deal, and these guys arent. Apples and oranges comparison.


With the difference being prof is using top tier AR coating (may be not suitable for watch applications for numerous reasons) while CC is using the cheapest optician grade AR.
 

FinanceSammy

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Correct. No need to have an attitude bro. I’m asking cause I’m curious


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Asmodeus

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Correct. No need to have an attitude bro. I’m asking cause I’m curious


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No attitude, I am just trying to explain why the above request was not the proper one. So if you want to verify it yourself you can ask prof, if you consider prof a competitor and not being neutral, you can ask another member here that is in AR field such as @Sonil , if you still consider anyone here not neutral ask your local optician.
 

FinanceSammy

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I understand that, but has anyone of them held one in hand? Or a new one? Pictures can be deceiving


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Do you have an article about being Auto finance manager? You should be able to tell about quality job in your own field right?

People in their own field don't need an article no, but there are quantitative and qualitative things I can point out to show that what I am saying is true. Could you maybe point out or direct us to information that can help us tell what we are looking at because we aren't as experienced as you.


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JackJ1980

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I'll describe it with a generic term, "shape", "quality", "treatment". I can't measure the thickness by looking at a picture.
Quality is semantics. Synthetic sapphirenks synthetic sapphire. It's like saying a cubic zirconia is better from Zales than from Kay's. The cut does definitely matter as does the AR and the mag
 

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With the difference being prof is using top tier AR coating (may be not suitable for watch applications for numerous reasons) while CC is using the cheapest optician grade AR.
I wasn't aware you have spoken wth crystal cleAR regarding their AR choices. I speak with them often being local and they've said they've never spoken to anyone on the phone about the xtals yet. You seem too eager to shut them down. If you were more honest it would regarded with more credibility. Like when you said you'd send me your prototype and I said I'd do a comparison between cc prof and yours. Then you backed out
 

FinanceSammy

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People in their own field don't need an article no, but there are quantitative and qualitative things I can point out to show that what I am saying is true. Could you maybe point out or direct us to information that can help us tell what we are looking at because we aren't as experienced as you.


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Thank you....very well put brotha. I understand it’s your field of work, but if many times at work I have to put on paper and show you before you will believe what I say. I’m a visual guy, I’d like to know the difference from prof and/or your xtal vs crystal clear.


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Quality is semantics. Synthetic sapphirenks synthetic sapphire. It's like saying a cubic zirconia is better from Zales than from Kay's. The cut does definitely matter as does the AR and the mag


id have to disagree with you here , my way old 42PO dssd has a sapph on it and the thing looks milky in the sunlight , close examination shows microbubbles , or voids in the media , the Noobs do not look this way , it has nothing to do with the cut ....
 

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id have to disagree with you here , my way old 42PO dssd has a sapph on it and the thing looks milky in the sunlight , close examination shows microbubbles , or voids in the media , the Noobs do not look this way , it has nothing to do with the cut ....
Sapphirenor mineral glass on your way old PO?
 

JackJ1980

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Synthetic sapphire crystal is like a diamond. The pressure and hardness don't leave a lot of room for bubbles
 

Asmodeus

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So I'll try to make it as simple as possible, AR solutions are made from various materials and grades. The colour reflections you see on a crystals/lenses is called "residual colour".

no company wants a residual colour on their applications however sometimes it's innevitable, for example with Anti-UV, oleophobic and hardening layers.

The most common AR coating using by the chinese prescription lens manufacturers is the same as the one used in CC. The one with the green tint. It's not because of any of the above extra layers, it's about the quality. The anti-reflection mark is lower than the average low-tier branded one. You can check one of the latest v6s sales using CC crystal, you can see a lot of reflections even at perfect angle where a weak black hole effect appears.

You don't have to inspect in person something that already looks to bad on pictures, I'd have to inspect in person if something looked very good instead.

I wasn't aware you have spoken wth crystal cleAR regarding their AR choices. I speak with them often being local and they've said they've never spoken to anyone on the phone about the xtals yet. You seem too eager to shut them down. If you were more honest it would regarded with more credibility. Like when you said you'd send me your prototype and I said I'd do a comparison between cc prof and yours. Then you backed out

I hear you brother, I don't have to apologise to you whatsoever for not sending you the crystal. I told you that I totally forgot about it since when I asked rob it was already too late and I went to bed. I am a busy man and can't remember anything, you never got back to me to remind me either.

However here is the proof that I never "backed out"

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9 AM here, 2 AM in New York. Next days passed and you never asked if I sent it out or whatever.