New 5711 Nautilus Modder/Factory - BUFF?

[2841]

Thanks for sharing bro and congrats on the project. However I have to agree with alvinado , you are comparing boxed (post 2019) rep dials with a non boxed (pre 2019) gen dial, but they are not supposed to have the same colour.

I'm sure the end result will look great but it doesn't tell which rep dial is closest to gen

Its not about the color, its more about how the dial behaves in light. The buff dial is over the top, and ive never seen a gen dial have that harsh sunburst. (Same problem with the ZF aquanaut dials)

Either way, what's important is what people like, and what they want in their watch My vote is PPF V4 with buff markers, if you dont want to go gen

 

[2841]

Can you please make and post a short video of your gen dial from different angle and/or in different lighting conditions if possible? I have both PPFv4 and Buff dials. They are way different from each other and I personally like both of them that's why I've had / will have them built into two watch. I'm curious to see your gen dial in a video.

Sorry bud, we did these pics before installation, so its already in the watch. Ill do a full review once completed

 

[Mercedesslr]

I’m curious where do people find Gen dials these days for a decent price? Or is just bite the bullet and accept it? I’m trying to find a Gen 5711 or 5712 dial for a build potentially but it seems like I mind as well get a Gen 3800 and call it a day for the prices I’m seeing. Lol.

 

[grillbrill]

Sorry bud, we did these pics before installation, so its already in the watch. Ill do a full review once completed

No problem, looking forward to seeing the result of your awesome projects.

 

[2841]

I’m curious where do people find Gen dials these days for a decent price? Or is just bite the bullet and accept it? I’m trying to find a Gen 5711 or 5712 dial for a build potentially but it seems like I mind as well get a Gen 3800 and call it a day for the prices I’m seeing. Lol.

Well you don’t really, it’s like finding a unicorn

I was on the hunt for a gen 116500 black dial, and came across a 5711 dial, pretty much 5 minutes after it was listed. Pressed buy now, and managed to snatch it up, before anyone saw it

 

[grillbrill]

Its not about the color, its more about how the dial behaves in light. The buff dial is over the top, and ive never seen a gen dial have that harsh sunburst. (Same problem with the ZF aquanaut dials)

Either way, what's important is what people like, and what they want in their watch My vote is PPF V4 with buff markers, if you dont want to go gen

My PF/PPFv4 dial hybrid rep is one of my fav watches among all gen and rep timepieces I'm aware of. However, I miss that green hue from it what I found in the Buff dial. On the other hand, I miss that gradient smokey blue from the Buff's what I like in the PPF one. So finally I have / will have two blue 5711 reps with these dials.

 

[Mercedesslr]

Well you don’t really, it’s like finding a unicorn

I was on the hunt for a gen 116500 black dial, and came across a 5711 dial, pretty much 5 minutes after it was listed. Pressed buy now, and managed to snatch it up, before anyone saw it

Fair enough. I once had that on a rare vintage Gen Rolex. I guess it happens like that in this business. Lol

 

[Noob42069]

Fuck reading through this thread is a cluster fuck.
Peggy doesn’t seem trust worthy.

I’m primarily interested in the green dial and 40th anniversary blue.

are buff dials and hands worth it for the green/anniversary blue dials?

mismatching lume hands make the hands not worth it?

should I just go PPF and send to SpongeBob for a crown / other mods?

so confused even after reading a bit.

 

[2841]

Fuck reading through this thread is a cluster fuck.
Peggy doesn’t seem trust worthy.

I’m primarily interested in the green dial and 40th anniversary blue.

are buff dials and hands worth it for the green/anniversary blue dials?

mismatching lume hands make the hands not worth it?

should I just go PPF and send to SpongeBob for a crown / other mods?

so confused even after reading a bit.

Buff hands are great, but needs a relume and a slight polish. The dial is not great imo, and the DW is poor quality aswell

Go 3kf but just find a modder here. (I would stear clear of Peggy and Buff)

 

[grillbrill]

Buff hands are great, but needs a relume and a slight polish. The dial is not great imo, and the DW is poor quality aswell

Go 3kf but just find a modder here. (I would stear clear of Peggy and Buff)

Do you think Buff green dial isn't worthy either?

 

[2841]

Do you think Buff green dial isn't worthy either?

To be honest, I’ve paid absolutely 0 attention to that watch, I was never a fan of the green dial.

 

[Noob42069]

Buff hands are great, but needs a relume and a slight polish. The dial is not great imo, and the DW is poor quality aswell

Go 3kf but just find a modder here. (I would stear clear of Peggy and Buff)

Thanks for the info. I trust your judgement. Not to detract too much from the BUFF thread, but why 3KF instead of PPF? I thought PPF had the better dials, just need a crown mod.

 

[2841]

Thanks for the info. I trust your judgement. Not to detract too much from the BUFF thread, but why 3KF instead of PPF? I thought PPF had the better dials, just need a crown mod.

It depends on what you want to do with the watch. PPF dial is the way to go. But the bezel needs A LOT of work. The new 3KF is imo a better base to start with, but they also needs refinishing and reshaping. And you get the clone movement, if that’s important to you.

Again, it’s up to you what you can live with. I would never wear one of these watches otb.

the build we are doing at the moment is a total case/bezel reshape and refinish, gen dial, buff hands (polished and re lumed) Movement service of course and refinish of the bracelet/clasp.

 

[grillbrill]

It depends on what you want to do with the watch. PPF dial is the way to go. But the bezel needs A LOT of work. The new 3KF is imo a better base to start with, but they also needs refinishing and reshaping. And you get the clone movement, if that’s important to you.

Again, it’s up to you what you can live with. I would never wear one of these watches otb.

the build we are doing at the moment is a total case/bezel reshape and refinish, gen dial, buff hands (polished and re lumed) Movement service of course and refinish of the bracelet/clasp.

Sounds an ultimate franken, keep going.

 

[Tobel]

Its not about the color, its more about how the dial behaves in light. The buff dial is over the top, and ive never seen a gen dial have that harsh sunburst. (Same problem with the ZF aquanaut dials)

Either way, what's important is what people like, and what they want in their watch My vote is PPF V4 with buff markers, if you dont want to go gen

Yes that's a very good point, I also find that harsch sunbursts are much bigger tells than some microscopic stuff than folks are sometimes obsessing much more about.

I guess we'd need the combination of right sunburst and colour

 

[Mercedesslr]

I feel like I need a white Gen dial with a Tiffany stamp and I’ll be good to go. Unless someone can recommend the ultimate build on that as well as who could do it and which non Gen dial to use.

 

[X24222]

It depends on what you want to do with the watch. PPF dial is the way to go. But the bezel needs A LOT of work. The new 3KF is imo a better base to start with, but they also needs refinishing and reshaping. And you get the clone movement, if that’s important to you.

Again, it’s up to you what you can live with. I would never wear one of these watches otb.

the build we are doing at the moment is a total case/bezel reshape and refinish, gen dial, buff hands (polished and re lumed) Movement service of course and refinish of the bracelet/clasp.

From what I know, this is the right approach to get closest to Gen. Any idea how your approach differs (or is the same) as the one AMF takes? They posted a pretty good post a few months ago about their 5711 capabilities which seems consistent with the rigor you’re taking


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[X24222]

It depends on what you want to do with the watch. PPF dial is the way to go. But the bezel needs A LOT of work. The new 3KF is imo a better base to start with, but they also needs refinishing and reshaping. And you get the clone movement, if that’s important to you.

Again, it’s up to you what you can live with. I would never wear one of these watches otb.

the build we are doing at the moment is a total case/bezel reshape and refinish, gen dial, buff hands (polished and re lumed) Movement service of course and refinish of the bracelet/clasp.

From what I know, this is the right approach to get closest to Gen. Any idea how your approach differs (or is the same) as the one AMF takes? They posted a pretty good post a few months ago about their 5711 capabilities which seems consistent with the rigor you’re taking


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[h.pagani158]

I find it curious that in the first pic of 2 gen dials side by side, the one in your hands has an evidently strong burst.

My gen 2011 had tremendous burst esp under white light and it was beautiful to see in person/motion.

It’s of course up to the beholder, and what you like to look at, I personally would not use the Buff dial. IMO the best you could to at the moment if you don’t want to go gen, if PPF v4 with buff markers. (We are putting one of those together atm)

We are doing a build with a gen dial for me, I’ll do a review of both builds when they are done

 

[alvinado]

Regardless of the sunburst being too strong, I think I prefer this buff dial over the PPF. Reason being that it simply has more textures and hues and looks good is almost all lighting conditions other than under bright spotlights.

Ps: these are all pictures of the same watch under slightly different lighting. So to all those people who claim that they can just look at a dial and say “this is the most gen dial I’ve seen”, I can only say I disagree.

It’s a great watch and I’ll enjoy it as it is, given that it’s 1 watch, 50 shades of blue.

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