NEW 40mm VSF release

[Mkempes]

I definetly want to add a PAM to my collection. However I'm not yet ready to spend 4-5k€ for a gen PAM00337.

VSF please help me and make a decent rep with gen-like size!

 

[mjeong73]

Is there confirmation that this is thicker than gen? I have the 1370 gen and thickness is perfect. where can I get one of these rep?

 

[locvs]

Is there confirmation that this is thicker than gen? I have the 1370 gen and thickness is perfect. where can I get one of these rep?

With the p9000 clone it is impossible to achieve gen thickness. P9000 is twice as thick as p900. even if they shave some of the caseback thickness, it will still be 1,5-2 mm thicker than gen.

you can contact any TD and ask for hom to source the watch.

 

[marcsp2675]

I feel the same way. VSF has only been using the "in-house" P.9000 clone movement for its Pams for years. It's a good, solid movement, but at 7.9mm (Gen) it's also quite thick. At 8mm, the Clone movement is very close to the Gen movement. It was also the correct movement for the older models (e.g. 312 or 389).
It was a little more problematic to use this clone for watches with the newer P.9010 movement, which is slightly thinner at 6mm. But the P.900 with its 4.2 mm is the latest example where the P.9000 clone, which is almost twice as thick, is no longer the right choice. Unfortunately, the P.900 has replaced the older P.900X movements in Panerai's newer models.
VSF only produces the P.9000 clone, which is only slightly modified.
To get the newer models right, however, you would need a P.900 clone. Developing this would be very expensive. The question is whether it's worth it. I would say: No!
With the thicker P.900 models (e.g. 1226 or 1288), the difference is not that great and they sell well even with the P.9000 clone. The market for the slimmer models (e.g. all Lumimor Dues) is rather small, so it's probably not worth the effort commercially. What's more, the watches are already on the market and would all have to be completely revised with a future P.900 clone.
I am therefore pessimistic.

Very insightful. Makes a lot of sense. Still sucks, though.

 

[Kup1712]

new 40mm additional release

 

[marcsp2675]

I’m not usually a fan of white PAM, but that is sharp. Shame the height proportions are off in these models.

Anyone know if there is a 44 rep with this coloring?

 

[Kup1712]

I’m not usually a fan of white PAM, but that is sharp. Shame the height proportions are off in these models.

Anyone know if there is a 44 rep with this coloring?

1314 is the closest and the rep is one of the best from vsf 44mm along with 1312 and 1313

 

[marcsp2675]

1314 is the closest and the rep is one of the best from vsf 44mm along with 1312 and 1313

Ohhh. 1314 is pretty. And all my 111 and 312 straps will fit.

 

[KOT1917]

Yes, the thickness will definitely not be appropriate, it will be interesting to see the date window and the texture of the dial. And yes, I hope that this time, VSF will immediately understand that this should not be done with white hands, as was the case with the PAM1314.

 

[KOT1917]

At this point they just need to toss in a Hangzhou or Seagull with the small seconds or a modified Miyota to achieve thinness. Gen functions be damned.

The ST2555, which is suitable for the format, has a thickness of 7.4, which is not far from the clone's alternative of 7.9. Miyota 8215, for example, even with a suitable thickness of 5.7, should receive a modification of the constant second transfer by 9, and if I'm not mistaken, the date will have to be moved further from the hands. Apparently, it's not worth it.

 

[marcsp2675]

A white PAM …

 

[THXuk]

short video of each colour here

https://www.reddit.com/r/Repdesignerwatch1/comments/1ejh91a
https://www.reddit.com/r/Repdesignerwatch1/comments/1ejh7kz

 

[Reaps]

I wonder with a little modification if the rotor can be taken off, the case back can be shaved or replaced, and you can achieve a 11mm thickness...

 

[Reaps]

 

[Mkempes]

I wonder with a little modification if the rotor can be taken off, the case back can be shaved or replaced, and you can achieve a 11mm thickness...

The case is fat as a whole.

Don't know if there's a possibility to get a custom case that's thin. Then one could build a PAM718. That doesn't require a modified movement due to the missing sec at 9.

 

[Reaps]

The case is fat as a whole.

Don't know if there's a possibility to get a custom case that's thin. Then one could build a PAM718. That doesn't require a modified movement due to the missing sec at 9.

You can see in picture I posted there's some subtle differences but I appreciate the way VSF did it which is they kept the midcase thinner and added the thickness on the caseback.

If we remove the rotor you can shave off at least 1mm bringing it down. Then maybe some custom work on caseback or something to shave it down.

The P9000 movement has everything on one plate which is annoying to disassemble but it also means there's no additional things to remove and shave off.

 

[Virpag]

My approved QC for reference

 

[m5750]

My approved QC for reference

Man. This post just cost me $$. Just a gorgeous piece overall.

 

[Messi]

the blue is a very nice looking watch

 

[Virpag]

My first 40mm Pam and I hope it’s not too small on my big wrist we shall see
I am hoping for a stainless steel bracelet version besides the ceramic I do not remember VSF releasing
One can hope