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NEW 40mm VSF release
- Thread starter Kup1712
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40mm? Wow VS is really stepping out of their boundaries.
In my opinion the P9000 They use is too thick to have the right proportion for these Panerai
In my opinion the P9000 They use is too thick to have the right proportion for these Panerai
This! Gen is afaik 12,45mm - the Rep will (again) be a completely different watch on the wrist.
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Yes at 42mm and 44mm the proportion is still ok with the 14mm thickness but at 40mm the 14mm is too much in my opinion
Do you think they will ever change this? I’ve been waiting for a 10.5mm Luminor Due for as long as I can remember…
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I feel the same way. VSF has only been using the "in-house" P.9000 clone movement for its Pams for years. It's a good, solid movement, but at 7.9mm (Gen) it's also quite thick. At 8mm, the Clone movement is very close to the Gen movement. It was also the correct movement for the older models (e.g. 312 or 389).
It was a little more problematic to use this clone for watches with the newer P.9010 movement, which is slightly thinner at 6mm. But the P.900 with its 4.2 mm is the latest example where the P.9000 clone, which is almost twice as thick, is no longer the right choice. Unfortunately, the P.900 has replaced the older P.900X movements in Panerai's newer models.
VSF only produces the P.9000 clone, which is only slightly modified.
To get the newer models right, however, you would need a P.900 clone. Developing this would be very expensive. The question is whether it's worth it. I would say: No!
With the thicker P.900 models (e.g. 1226 or 1288), the difference is not that great and they sell well even with the P.9000 clone. The market for the slimmer models (e.g. all Lumimor Dues) is rather small, so it's probably not worth the effort commercially. What's more, the watches are already on the market and would all have to be completely revised with a future P.900 clone.
I am therefore pessimistic.
Fully agree with your analysis. But that's a pity as there won't be a decent rep of a PAM anytime soon for those with smaller wrists like me.
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Or this point I wonder why VSF is still using the p900.
with Panerai doing closed casebacks only, they can just put a bloody 9015 in it and call it a day. Proportions will be right an you’ll have a forever rep. Movement goes tits up. Put a new one in.
with Panerai doing closed casebacks only, they can just put a bloody 9015 in it and call it a day. Proportions will be right an you’ll have a forever rep. Movement goes tits up. Put a new one in.
12.5-13mm is max what I can handle on 40mm watch.
100% the thickness will be again in 14,5mm range
40mm is perfect pam size for us with smaller wrists
100% the thickness will be again in 14,5mm range
40mm is perfect pam size for us with smaller wrists
It's going to be like with the VSF PAM1292, 1294 and 1386. Gen is less than 11mm and rep is 13.3mm. Totally disappointing.
I wonder who buys those thickburgers.
I wonder who buys those thickburgers.
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At this point they just need to toss in a Hangzhou or Seagull with the small seconds or a modified Miyota to achieve thinness. Gen functions be damned.
Sad. I guess I’ll have to start looking for a good workout program for my wrists…
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Just buy the 42mm or 44mm Bettarini case. Suprisingly they "fit" well on smaller wrists due to lug to lug.
Panerai is just big and thick, there's no way around it.
The real advice is to buff out your forearms shoulders and biceps so that in perspective the Panerai does not look out of place.
That’s the case used on the 000 for example, right? Thanks, I’ll definitely take a look at those! 15mm thickness on a 44mm case isn’t thaaaat bad if it wears smaller than it is.
Unfortunately, I think it would take a lot of injections and other means for me to reach the level where a Panerai looks proportionally correct on my wrist…
44mm vsf carbon case is ok on my wrist, but that's max I can handle.That’s the case used on the 000 for example, right? Thanks, I’ll definitely take a look at those! 15mm thickness on a 44mm case isn’t thaaaat bad if it wears smaller than it is.
Unfortunately, I think it would take a lot of injections and other means for me to reach the level where a Panerai looks proportionally correct on my wrist…