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My KW 417 QC pics - (PAM Boutiques Kuvarsit pics and QC pics ALLOWED)

s3g0y

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Talking about straps... I put mine 417 on the gorgeous Kain Heritage handmade with the Kain submarine buckle. I think it fits fine :)

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Si_jeff

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So fast forward to 2 years. Is this kw417 still one of the best rep? I just got pam 111 noob and wondering if I should get pam 390 noob or kw? Eventually I kight get this 417 as well. Wow, this is addicting. From no Pam at all to 2 Pams in 2 weeks lol
 

Thatoneguy

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2 years later and these KW boutiques are even better... the dial has improved


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kingcrab

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hi all, I just read thru the PAM guide, and was wondering is the KW version even better than than the H-Factory? thank you

I am interested in the 432 version, thx
 

ALE7575

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hi all, I just read thru the PAM guide, and was wondering is the KW version even better than than the H-Factory? thank you

I am interested in the 432 version, thx

PAM GUIDE has not yet the info about 2015 reps because the current productions are not consistent an there are a lot of reps with mixing features from 2015 and old versions.
Anyway there are a lot of things changed from 2013

DIALS:
H maker has improved the quality of the lume application that was really sloppy in old proudctions
Noob has also improved the structure of lume application and has got really good sausage dials
KW had already good sausage dials, they have just improved a bit the "sausage", getting flatter lume like gen.
At this moment three makers have almost the same quality of sausage dials.
Lume structure is more or less like below showed. The rep structure is really different from gen, but the visual effect in practice is really gen-like

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Regarding cases three makers have improved the cases in 2015
-Lug shape is corrected in all makers
-Finish has improved in three makers
-Crystal bevelled has improved in Noob
-CG inner corners has improved a lot in H maker and KW and Noob are almost perfect now

Noob V4 2105 case is the best in general with nice finish and accurate bezel and edges. Noob V4 has corrected the "Fat" Crwom to "Slim" one. CG lever roller support remains inaccurate.
H maker has improved a lot the finish, but the edges are really sharper than gen and the bezel transition edges are also really sharper and the base looks higher than gen 8not accurate)
KW finish remains really good, lug shape has been corrected and the lug holes position remains a bit higher than gen. Bezel transition edges are sharper than gen but much less than H maker (less accurate than Noob)

That said we can conclude than KW Boutique with all 2015 features is better than H maker with all 2015 features

Just be careful with QC pics to assure all new 2015 features and reject the "bargains" from reps with mixed or old features

ALE
 

kingcrab

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HI Ale, merry xmas, thank you so much for the detailed reply. Now, I just have to learn what to look for in QC as I have no clue at all.

Toro has some on special (h-Fac) in the dealer section, not sure which model yr they are