Looks like a line-up of dudes for a raunchy B*kakke gang b*ng video, waiting for their turns.
Don’t ask me how I know.
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Looks like a line-up of dudes for a raunchy B*kakke gang b*ng video, waiting for their turns.
Don’t ask me how I know.
Lol thats funny manLooks like a line-up of dudes for a raunchy B*kakke gang b*ng video, waiting for their turns.
Don’t ask me how I know.
By the way, those chinese on the red flag means serious attack for replica meeting
Sounds fair to me. This of course means they’ll be selling them to us cheaper right? We can go back from $880 Rolexes to $400, right? It’s okay if the watch isn’t the one they advertise, they only make 80% profit on the watches, please think about them!
My dealer sold me fentanyl instead of heroin, but I know he’s risking his life to do so for me, so it’s okay.
Do yourself a favor and lookup the price of a clean watch in China. It’s $300. We pay $900 after shipping to buy from a TD. TDs intentionally try to trick customers into buying poor QC watches, but it’s okay, right? God forbid the customer doesn’t want a sideways marker.
The absolute hilarious part of this is you don’t realize customer dissatisfaction is the reason reps are much nicer now days. Let’s go back to spuerlaytive crhronometres with decorated McDonald’s watch movements.
Returning a watch is a dumb idea for a billion reasons, but rejecting QC because the TD is trying to bait you into buying a piece everyone else is rejecting is your right, it’s your money, and I’m sure people would be more than happy to pay a bit more to get the piece that was advertised.
Needless sucking up to TDs and buying anything and everything they get for you is how you end up with zero innovation from the factories. Why improve factory QC if the dumb white people are going to buy it anyways?
And to note, I’m not talking about the kids on reptime that reject QC when the thing is off by 0.00001mm and is only visible under 250x magnification. I’m taking about rejecting the pieces that they send you where EVERY marker is crooked and misaligned, which is common as hell.
I wanted to buy a Cellini moon phase (over $500), Jtime came back to me with SIX crooked markers. Should I have accepted it and worn my clown watch around? I could get some McDonald’s movement with straighter markers off of AliExpress for $100, no excuse when you’re paying 5x that.
I love the TDs we have, and I absolutely love that they allow you to do QC, I don’t see any reason in paying the same price and not having that benefit. No qc? Slash the prices then. Can’t handle the risk? Okay, we’ll wait for new TDS to emerge. Blind loyalty is dumb loyalty.
And we’ve already seen the loyalty doesn’t go both ways. We have TDs that won’t cover a single replacement watch or part for customers that have spent $15000 with them.
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Can you do us a favor and post the website or wechat?
Westerners cannot buy without using a sourcing agent, which is going to cost as much as the watch to begin with. But take a look at Biguan or other sellers on 1688 for more western accessible ones.
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You clearly don't know who the hell you are talking to. You think you will school me on what watches cost in GZ? I've been there, I know, and I helped establish relationships two decades ago that you can't comprehend.
Customer dissatisfaction is the reason huh? It wouldn't have anything to do with the involvement of myself and several others who have done a ton of sourcing and proofing over the years?
Then your accusation of sucking up to dealers? Who in the hell do you think these dealers asked when they desired to get established in the replica game? It sure as hell wasn't you or anyone you know.
Buddy, you have no clue.
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Go ahead and order a watch from a WeChat dealer. Sure you’ll save a couple hundred and it may go well a few times, but what happens when it’s damaged in shipping? Seized by customs? Tough luck in that case. The reason TDs charge a high premium is because they cater to western clientele’s demands, providing compensation or resolution for defective products, and assuming the risk of customs seizure. If you really think you’re the first person to find out the “real” retail price of reps, I have nothing to add.
Also, a CF Daytona is more like 650usd in China including shipping. Point me to where I can get one for 300 bucks and I’ll fly to guangzhou and return with a couple hundred of them.
You're absolutely proving my point. Yes, we purchase from TDs (so do I) because they they cater to western clientele’s demands, providing compensation or resolution for defective products, and assuming the risk of customs seizure. Part of this catering is the QC process. The admin is telling us to forget that. If we're paying premium, we deserve to utilize the QC process.
So you're saying you did all this sourcing and proofing not to help the customer? It had nothing to do with customer satisfaction? You just went out of your way to do this for shits and giggles? Or are you going to admit that it is indeed because of customer satisfaction and expectations that you did this?
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Well yeah if we can agree on that, I think what d4m was trying to say is don’t reject QCs for minor fixable issues. Not something that’s require a full service etc. and that’s just for the time being, I don’t think the industry has experienced such a shake up in years, even small non-TDs are getting their packages checked and seized from what I’ve heard.
Did you take something today?
Genuinely asking if you are ok.
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You at a tool who selectively takes pieces of statements and blows it out of context. You referenced a sideways marker, no one is telling anyone to take a sideways marker. The crap going on now is the expectation of perfection which doesn't exist in genuine models. I just seen yesterday a rejection using a stupid alignment tool on a watch that isn't flat, and one with a marker that is 0.025mm off. That's freaking nuts.
That line of reasoning is silly. If he's out there busting his ass, it's for a better result for all of us, which will lead to more sales for the TD. So to say it's not due to customer satisfaction seems wrong. If it's not for customer benefit, I'd love to know why he spent so much time doing that then.
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Don't reject watches, don't return watches. That is my recommendation. If you are not willing to take slightly flawed watches, leave this hobby for something you can get on Amazon. Try micro-brands, etc.
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Please tell me how that's selective. If you'd like to clarify your statement to "Don't reject watches with minor issues, don't return watches" that would be fine, and I AGREE WITH YOU. I don't agree with the blanket statement saying don't reject watches though, that's all, and it's not clear what you mean by "minor issues". Some members here consider an insanely crooked marker to be a "minor issue". I don't want to be in the brig though, so I won't argue with you anymore out of the respect I have for RWI staff and all that you/they do for us.
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Well he is true about the price but its maybe around 400 . Not as low as exactly 300.
But yes TD mark up very much .
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You definitely would not be brigged for arguing with me. I'm not like that..
We are likely saying similar things, just the definitions are unclear. I would never expect someone to accept a seriously flawed watch, NEVER, but these microscopic issues found on zoom with inaccurate alignment tools, it's going too far.
Last week I had a member complain that a dealer told them most things were out of stock, but they changed their name and email and suddenly the watch was in stock. Several dealers keep track of picky people and automatically default to "no stock" when asked. This isn't the first time I've encountered this.
I'll gladly pay a mark up with English speaking r/repladies TDs to get a nice LV bag for the missus, so I don't have to go through the whole agent thingie.
Yes, I could save a few $, but I'm lazy...
I view our TDs the same way: A super comfortable short-cut alternative at a mark-up, but with direct shipping and English speaking support.
And the best thing is that if you're an RWI member, at the time of the order, you get RWI's backing and assistance.
And that is absolutely priceless!
Well, actually, it's literally priceless, but you know what I mean.
Exactly. That's what I'm talking about.
People shouldn't only look at the prices. You have to keep the added value (service, support, Customs seizure 'insurance' etc.) in mind. Yes, it's not perfect. It's not Amazon. But it's a lot more than ordering a watch from a WeChat dealer....