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pezzy

Getting To Know The Place
5/12/06
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i think cleaning glue off after it has been applied onto the dial is too messy of a job. not to mention it's just too damn tiny to do a clean job. sellers who are part of the cartel like trusty still have the st19 daytonas.

matzemedia - the dial is from kuared. as for the coronet, no it's flat on the back for mine. my dial has the 2 holes though. kuared offered me to have a gen coronet or a rep coronet. i opted for the rep cause it was a little cheaper and looked much nicer imo.
 

Palief

monarch_polfy_sa
27/7/20
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Hello gentlemen,
I am new in your Daytona world. Since yesterday, I own my first four digit Daytona. It is a relative cheep 6341 from trusted times. They write it is from "no name factory".
I really like the clean look of the Paul Newman dial and the small diameter for a chronograph. But I am also addicted to modding cases - that helps me to increases the fun of a watch. So I already disassembled the watch to start studding everything in detail.

Now I am at the point where I ask myself what do I want to change to become to closer to gen. Changing the pusher, crown? Reduce the height? Change the dial to T21 or mod the shape of the case. To get the right answer, I studied this (and some other) threads, looked tons of images from chrono24 and other websites. But I'm still struggling with the answer. So, that is why I write this comment and like you to help me with this answer.

But before I can start doing anything, there are two questions I have:
  • How can I remove this modified pusher?
  • Is it correct that the old Daytona is about 15mm height? And if not, where do I have to reduce material?

Hi is it this one you got from? your bezel S is correct compare to this....

 

matzemedia

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I 'am not sure. The one at the link is total different: other dial, other pusher.
The one I bought had "no name factory" in the description.
 
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turbo911

Monarch Polfy Gelena Shitintherand
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i plan on using a v23 on a daytona build, that means installing a faux hour counting hand at 6 o/clock.
Since i do not have a spare wheel with pinion from a ST19 i must use another way to install the hand. I saw that someone has done that before.

Before i start searching, does anybody know a solution, e.g. use a wheel and glue in a pinion etc.?
 
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turbo911

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another question: i swap the Cartel pushers with PN302. How do you remove them, seem to be pressed in. is there a way without destroying them?
 
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Thewatchwolf

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i plan on using a v23 on a daytona build, that means installing a faux hour counting hand at 6 o/clock.
Since i do not have a spare wheel with pinion from a ST19 i must use another way to install the hand. I saw that someone has done that before.

Before i start searching, does anybody know a solution, e.g. use a wheel and glue in a pinion etc.?
Han Solo Good Luck GIF by Star Wars
 

patek888

Getting To Know The Place
20/3/18
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Help needed guys.

Does anybody know a good vintage watch modded based in singapore? It’s just basic things like swapping dials and bezel?

Thank you!
 

Giammy

Day-tune
3/9/23
594
405
63
I read about a watchmaker in Singapore in some post, try to search it, you may find something
 

Giammy

Day-tune
3/9/23
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i plan on using a v23 on a daytona build, that means installing a faux hour counting hand at 6 o/clock.
Since i do not have a spare wheel with pinion from a ST19 i must use another way to install the hand. I saw that someone has done that before.

Before i start searching, does anybody know a solution, e.g. use a wheel and glue in a pinion etc.?
Your question is a good question, I can answer to you with thing I used on mine watches :)

VALJOUX 23 MOVEMENT BASED

If you are modding a VJ23 there’s no way to drill a hole and add a pinion to place the @6 subdial hand.
By doing so, you would compromise the movement and risk ruining it!
You have to fix the hand directly on the dial.

To be more precise as possible, I suggest you to use the loctite gel that allow to gain some extra time to set the hand in the right place before it dry and you can easily remove it if you want in future to use the dial on another build just with a drop of specific unglue product.

This method is for everyone, even without tools and movements knowledge.
You will only have to cut off the tube below the hand and glue it with a very very little amount of loctite gel, just a microdrop behind the hand to ensure a clean work, it will be enough! You have to be very precise and careful :)

SEAGULL ST19xx MOVEMENT BASED

The ST19 can be modded either by gluing the hand as explained before, or with another method which however requires you have a bit of watchmaking skills, so you will have to gain access to the front plate (the one under the dial) and use a tool to widen/enlarge the subdial hole @6 upwards by about two millimeters and then you can fix the pinion gear under the plate in the new raised position so that it is parallel to the @6 subdial hand’s hole.
To be more precise as possible, I suggest you to use the loctite gel here too that allow you to move the pinion in the correct position it if necessary, with the hole parallel to the hand’s spot

I am not an expert but an hobbyist :)
Before putting your hands on the movements do all the necessary research and also look for other opinions and ideas 💡 💡

Vintage Rolex is something very special ;)
 

turbo911

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Your question is a good question, I can answer to you with thing I used on mine watches :)

VALJOUX 23 MOVEMENT BASED

If you are modding a VJ23 there’s no way to drill a hole and add a pinion to place the @6 subdial hand.
By doing so, you would compromise the movement and risk ruining it!
You have to fix the hand directly on the dial.

To be more precise as possible, I suggest you to use the loctite gel that allow to gain some extra time to set the hand in the right place before it dry and you can easily remove it if you want in future to use the dial on another build just with a drop of specific unglue product.

This method is for everyone, even without tools and movements knowledge.
You will only have to cut off the tube below the hand and glue it with a very very little amount of loctite gel, just a microdrop behind the hand to ensure a clean work, it will be enough! You have to be very precise and careful :)

SEAGULL ST19xx MOVEMENT BASED

The ST19 can be modded either by gluing the hand as explained before, or with another method which however requires you have a bit of watchmaking skills, so you will have to gain access to the front plate (the one under the dial) and use a tool to widen/enlarge the subdial hole @6 upwards by about two millimeters and then you can fix the pinion gear under the plate in the new raised position so that it is parallel to the @6 subdial hand’s hole.
To be more precise as possible, I suggest you to use the loctite gel here too that allow you to move the pinion in the correct position it if necessary, with the hole parallel to the hand’s spot

I am not an expert but an hobbyist :)
Before putting your hands on the movements do all the necessary research and also look for other opinions and ideas 💡 💡

Vintage Rolex is something very special ;)
Thanks for your reply. I already completed my v23 build and did not want to glue the subdial hand to the dial. I instead glued a pinion to the movement and installed the hand on that (similar to how its mounted on the st19) imho that also looks better sice the hand does not sit on the dial but has a distance to it.