Let's talk vintage Daytonas with TheSociety & Friends!

[gpvecchi]

Guys, can you please tell me which one of these is the NoName factory?

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ROLDYT0068A - 6263 SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068A] - $288.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

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ROLDYT0346B - Daytona Ref.6263 SS/SS Wht/Blk/Stk WMF Venus 75 [ROLDYT0346B] - $278.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLDYT0346B - Daytona Ref.6263 SS/SS Wht/Blk/Stk WMF Venus 75 [ROLDYT0346B] - WMF Factory Vintage Daytona Ref.6263 MOVEMENT: Copy Venus 75 Manual Handwind Chronograph movement CASE DIAMETER: 37.5mm THICKNESS: 16mm DIAL COLOR: White Dial with Black Subdials and Stick Markers...

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Thank you!

 

[Giammy]

Guys, can you please tell me which one of these is the NoName factory?

https://trustytime88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_103&products_id=2112

ROLDYT0068A - 6263 SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068A] - $288.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLDYT0068A - 6263 SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068A] - Another Special Vintage Rollie Project....The Best Vintage Rolex Daytona 6263 Ever Rep .. Surpassing all previous rep from whoever !..... Uneven Pusher position as per genuine Made Genuine Parts (Crystal, Dials)...

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ROLDYT0346B - Daytona Ref.6263 SS/SS Wht/Blk/Stk WMF Venus 75 [ROLDYT0346B] - $278.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLDYT0346B - Daytona Ref.6263 SS/SS Wht/Blk/Stk WMF Venus 75 [ROLDYT0346B] - WMF Factory Vintage Daytona Ref.6263 MOVEMENT: Copy Venus 75 Manual Handwind Chronograph movement CASE DIAMETER: 37.5mm THICKNESS: 16mm DIAL COLOR: White Dial with Black Subdials and Stick Markers...

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Thank you!

The first seems EE
The second is WMF

One of no name factory is this:

ROLDYT0068B - 6263PN SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068B] - $288.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLDYT0068B - 6263PN SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068B] - Another Special Vintage Rollie Project....The Best Vintage Rolex Daytona 6263 Ever Rep .. Surpassing all previous rep from whoever !..... Uneven Pusher position as per genuine Made Genuine Parts (Crystal...

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[Luke007]

No name factory is ever better and no one knows them…
They do better bezels, dials and hands, the case is the same of jfk, the bracelet is better quality but without engravings.

So if you decide to mod the watch with viet bezel, dial, hands and tube + crown then you better choose jfk
But as an out of the box one, nonamefactory is way better!

Thank you! I just want to have one out of the box and enjoy on my wrist.

 

[gpvecchi]

The first seems EE
The second is WMF

One of no name factory is this:

ROLDYT0068B - 6263PN SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068B] - $288.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLDYT0068B - 6263PN SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068B] - Another Special Vintage Rollie Project....The Best Vintage Rolex Daytona 6263 Ever Rep .. Surpassing all previous rep from whoever !..... Uneven Pusher position as per genuine Made Genuine Parts (Crystal...

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Thank you, there was a third link, but this forum made it a little hidden. This seems a No Name, right?

ROLDYT0068A - 6263 SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068A] - $288.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLDYT0068A - 6263 SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068A] - Another Special Vintage Rollie Project....The Best Vintage Rolex Daytona 6263 Ever Rep .. Surpassing all previous rep from whoever !..... Uneven Pusher position as per genuine Made Genuine Parts (Crystal, Dials)...

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[Giammy]

Thank you, there was a third link, but this forum made it a little hidden. This seems a No Name, right?

ROLDYT0068A - 6263 SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068A] - $288.00 : Trusty Time Watch, Your Trusty Watch Shop

Trusty Time Watch ROLDYT0068A - 6263 SS/SS White Asian Venus 75 H/W [ROLDYT0068A] - Another Special Vintage Rollie Project....The Best Vintage Rolex Daytona 6263 Ever Rep .. Surpassing all previous rep from whoever !..... Uneven Pusher position as per genuine Made Genuine Parts (Crystal, Dials)...

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I fear not because of the dial, but sometime you have to know that old stocks haven’t updated pictures and descriptions
Just ask them explicitly for a no name factory one of the reference you want

 

[gpvecchi]

Do you think is a stupid thing to buy a No Name watch, and fit a viet dial and bezel? I don't care of the movement, but just the look...

 

[pezzy]

^no. it's actually the go-to path for that build i think. you probably don't even need a viet bezel. the no name has the flat s bezel i believe. so just switch to a viet dial, and you'll have a very nice looking vintage daytona rep.

 

[Giammy]

Do you think is a stupid thing to buy a No Name watch, and fit a viet dial and bezel? I don't care of the movement, but just the look...

No, I think it’s the best idea if you don’t care about the movement
If you want to fit viet bezel and dial, so go for a jfk watch

^no. it's actually the go-to path for that build i think. you probably don't even need a viet bezel. the no name has the flat s bezel i believe. so just switch to a viet dial, and you'll have a very nice looking vintage daytona rep.

Exactly! The NoName have good bezels too, it’s the best out of the box, but no deal for a viet bezel and dial

If you want a good out of the box NoName is better

If you want a super good looking Daytona, jfk with viet dial and bezel is better

Obviously, if you want a gen-like you need the full viet kit with a vj72/726




Confrontation between 6265 (left) light aged NNF out of the box and 6263 (right) high end with vj72




And this is no name aged 6239 with modded dial and bezel

Your choice!!

 

[gpvecchi]

Thank you very much, so, if you don't care about the movement/functionality, the best you can obtain now is a No Name with viet bezel, dial, crown, tube, pushers and perhaps gen riveted bracelet, right?

 

[Giammy]

Thank you very much, so, if you don't care about the movement/functionality, the best you can obtain now is a No Name with viet bezel, dial, crown, tube, pushers and perhaps gen riveted bracelet, right?

Yepp

 

[Giammy]

Thank you very much, so, if you don't care about the movement/functionality, the best you can obtain now is a No Name with viet bezel, dial, crown, tube, pushers and perhaps gen riveted bracelet, right?

If you change everything so is the same, both jfk and noname are good, but noname cost more

 

[handsomedavid]

Great post for the newbies like me who are getting into the vintage world, greatly appreciated

 

[WIS]

Thanks for your reply. I already completed my v23 build and did not want to glue the subdial hand to the dial. I instead glued a pinion to the movement and installed the hand on that (similar to how its mounted on the st19) imho that also looks better sice the hand does not sit on the dial but has a distance to it.

DW 6263 project completed after 15 years

back in around 2008 or 2009 or so, i bought an extra 6263 case from DW which I ordered as a v72 case but after inspection it showed that it was a mystery movement case. i wrote DW and asked for a exchange but never heard back and later he disappeared... so i had this extra DW 6263 case lying in...

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Did you use a Vietnam V72 case? I’m thinking about doing a V23 based Daytona build but I read that the V23 isn’t a drop in fit for gen spec cases

 

[turbo911]

Did you use a Vietnam V72 case? I’m thinking about doing a V23 based Daytona build but I read that the V23 isn’t a drop in fit for gen spec cases

no, i used an old DW case for mystery movement (v23 "clone") or Valjoux v23. the V23 and mystery movement are a thinner in profile vs. the V72 since it lacks the 12 hour counter and therefore do not fit a gen spec v72 case. The stem is not lining up with the case hole/tube.

 

[WIS]

Thanks. Sounds like it's a matter of adding some padding behind the dial if you have a V72 case (i.e. increasing the thickness so the stem/pushers line up). Unless the pusher alignment with stem heights are different between the V23 and V72?

 

[turbo911]

Thanks. Sounds like it's a matter of adding some padding behind the dial if you have a V72 case (i.e. increasing the thickness so the stem/pushers line up). Unless the pusher alignment with stem heights are different between the V23 and V72?

if you add a thicker spacer behind the dial you most likely need bigger heights of minute wheel, seconds wheel and hour wheel so that the hands clear the dial, otherwise you will not be able to install them or they rub on the dial. And if you install higher wheels (dont know if there are any available for v23) you might run into seconds hand clearance issues with the crystal.

 

[WIS]

if you add a thicker spacer behind the dial you most likely need bigger heights of minute wheel, seconds wheel and hour wheel so that the hands clear the dial, otherwise you will not be able to install them or they rub on the dial. And if you install higher wheels (dont know if there are any available for v23) you might run into seconds hand clearance issues with the crystal.

Good point. I guess I could also add a spacer between the dial and the case (instead of behind the dial) at the expense of visual similarity with gen. Either way, sounds like a project! (might just be easier to get a V72 at that point lol)