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KW PAM 505 finally! [QC Pics Allowed]

PecMan

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so this watch is made by who? im kind of confused with all the factories now a days,nice replicas used to come only from h-factory and noob , now pec is out of fashion :(
 

ALE7575

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so this watch is made by who? im kind of confused with all the factories now a days,nice replicas used to come only from h-factory and noob , now pec is out of fashion :(

Dear Pec
These replicas are from Kuvarsit Watches
If you want to buy them ask dealers for KW version or contact
Li or Allen on e-mail address:
[email protected]

ALE
 

PecMan

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thanks ALE! them those awards you got there are very well deserved !
u got an answer for everything ! :thinking:
so tell why are we here???
 

ALE7575

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Pec, you are welcome my friend

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yngchrn

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Tks guy no wonder i could get in when u all mention is down
 

jpohl402

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But, there is a aluminum/Ti composite available that that weighs in at 74g..

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74g for a watch of this size is lightttt
 

jpohl402

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Actually a DLC coating is much harder than SS. But it is fragile and thin
Threfore no problem about scratches but be careful with dents, you could broke the DLC and get the SS of the base.
This is the problem with the smooth Alu base. You can broke the DLC because the support of Alu is not hard enough.
But ceramic is also very fragile you can broke it with a strong hit.

ALE


Good info, thanks!
 

ALE7575

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I guess you are talking about Aluminium alloy DLC coated
It was used for PAM 386, and after that that material was left. I guess due to smoothness of Alu.

ALE

I have seen that nowadays Cartel has released a version of PAM 339 in Alu Ti DLC coated
I guess it is an alloy of Alu with Ti which is harder than simple Alu, to get a harder base for the DLC coating
Anyaway far of hardness of SS and, of course, of composite or ceramic

We will see the results

ALE
 

Leewei

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Hi Ale, all in all which are the new P9000 clone movt rep are consider or near to a super rep.
 

ALE7575

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Hi Ale, all in all which are the new P9000 clone movt rep are consider or near to a super rep.

Hi Leewei

We must follow the same and uniform criteria to evaluate new replicas.

This KW PAM 505 will be able to be a magnificent First Class rep. But never will be even a First Class bordering Super rep status.
The movement is not a clone, it is a clear decorated movement with inverted layout, anyone can tell the differences.
Besides the material is not composite, is DLC coated with a weight about double.
Many important differences for a Super rep or bordering Super rep,

PAM 388 if has a good quality, as we expected, since the material is polished SS will be a First Class rep bordering Super rep status (due to movement)

Anyway, this watch is really awesome and it is worth the purchase

ALE
 

ichi

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I think the clone KW movements look excellent. IMHO they are just as close to gen as an unmodded 6497. They each have tells. I cannot agree with the point that "anyone" can tell the difference. I showed my buddy, another watch buff and Panerai enthusiast my KW312 and he thought it was gen. He looked at the movement for 5 minutes stating how beautiful it was and how cool it was they made their own manufacture etc... he went on and on and I finally said you know thats a rep too right.

While it is true any of US can tell the differences instantly, the average Joe cannot... not even someone relatively familiar with the p9000 movement without it being next to a gen pic or watch.

I have the utmost respect for Ale and all his hard work and his guide is the best thing going for us watch geeks looking for an excellent pam resource. It is not the bible however, and while it doesnt get his super rep stamp it certainly gets mine. There are numerous "super reps" that arent as good that are not panerai so they dont have the level of close inspection that are considered super reps. AP diver for example, excellent build quality and second to none, but still has visible flaws from the FRONT, whereas almost all panerai problems are rear only, save CG on lesser models. just my .02$
 

GeDi

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So is this watch from KW?

Because the PAM441 is not from KW.

D.