Jf ap 15400 v5

[MasterWatch]

Precisely! One day I might get the genuine one, of course it's a totally different feeling. Right now I'm enjoying different models first to see what fits me best. I'm very glad this forum can count on experienced people who actually own the real thing, giving us an unbiased opinion on these new models. :drinks_cheers:




Thanks! Thankfully, I have studied the genuine 15400 for a while prior to this purchase. Just to be clear, my TD didn't state the new V5 was 1:1 or more gen-like. It was just me who said I prefer the new printing compared to previous JF iterations. Of course this will always be very subjective. But posts like yours are very healthy for people who don't really know what they're getting.
Cheers

Another wristshot to top things off

You are 100% correct that these things are very subjective and I am happy for you that you are happy with your beautiful watch. And the watch looks great on you.
Cheers!

 

[Tigerdragon]

@MasterWatch

I'am defending noone my friend, i bought from 10 TDs here but i also saw 6 different gen blue dials over the years with different printing + different logos and 2 different white dials from GEN which where completly different so it COULD be possible that they exist a gen dial with plates on it thats all what i say and i still think i saw that post earlier in the thread but not sure maybe some mod can find it.

And for the rest just nonsense, AP is also cutting costs like every other company does.

Here is the comparison what i meant:

P.S.: I can write and use every word i want because thats what free speech stands for thank you also KSwatches could post photos of his gen sample and thats it. Its kinda ridiclious to think that iam "defending" someone only because i don't trash TDs and Vendors because you know what? I don't need that because i don't have any problems with them and i did wait for a watch 12 weeks (with sead actually) and i didn't even make a big deal out of it.

 

[MasterWatch]

@MasterWatch

I'am defending noone my friend, i bought from 10 TDs here but i also saw 6 different gen blue dials over the years with different printing + different logos and 2 different white dials from GEN which where completly different so it COULD be possible that they exist a gen dial with plates on it thats all what i say and i still think i saw that post earlier in the thread but not sure maybe some mod can find it.

And for the rest just nonsense, AP is also cutting costs like every other company does.

Here is the comparison what i meant:

P.S.: I can write and use every word i want because thats what free speech stands for thank you also KSwatches could post photos of his gen sample and thats it. Its kinda ridiclious to think that iam "defending" someone only because i don't trash TDs and Vendors because you know what? I don't need that because i don't have any problems with them and i did wait for a watch 12 weeks (with sead actually) and i didn't even make a big deal out of it.

I fail to find how your rapport with 10 TDs and experience with 8 different Gen Dial varients add any value to this conversation?

Variences on Gen Dials is nothing new nor is it unheard of but that is a different conversation altogether and Not the Subject of this conversation.

That comparison video is one of the most boring watch related video I have ever seen.

With such knowledge and experience under your belt. You or KSwatches fail to produce a Gen Dial that uses the JF and OMF technique of printing SWISS MADE on a raised plate. The Subject of this Conversation.

Until a Gen example is produced which is relevant to this conversation and proves the fact that KSwatches has a gen that uses same printing process as the Gen (as stated by them). I will stick to what I have said.

And you might think this is coming from me because I have some beef with KSwatches. For your information today was the first time I heard of them and noticed that they are a TD here. So the question of having a past relationship with them does not even arise and I am sure they will attest to that.


P.s. Yes it's a free world, one has thier right to freedom of speech. Therefore, one can use any word they want. One can also devour thier own excrements if that's thier will, but will any respectable human being do such a thing is a thing to ponder.

 

[Tigerdragon]

I give up don't feed the troll.

And I have nothing to do with KSwatches but you repeat yourself and think iam affilated with them or have any connection with them which i don't have. But like i said don't feed the troll you want a "fight" but iam way to old for that so go ahead and write your allegations and learn to read, i wrote: it COULD be give a gen dial like that and even tagged KSwatches

So i'm out ouf this nonsene here, i have better things to do.

 

[QueTip]

And the bottom line is that out of all the variations on gen dials, a dial like that has yet to be made by AP. Period. What’s the fuss?

I don’t see anyone trolling just stating facts.

 

[Tigerdragon]

I hate when somebody talks bullshit about me, everybody knows that iam very criticizing with watches but i simply haven't anything to do with TD/Vendoers. I bought my last watch from KSwatches for a review (AP 15202) thats it. If he has a personal beef with someone its not my problem.

Like i said maybe there is a dial variation or not like i wrote "could" and he is still implying that iam "defending" here someone. Its the same bullshit like the last guy who said that Rolex Submariner has no blue hues in there cyclops magnifications (which they now have) but they were plenty of pictures/videos who proof otherwise.

KSwatches should post the gen sample and thats it.

 

[KSwatches]

Must be correct if you say so...


Rep V5 dial Top
Gen dial Below

Lots of different gen variations. This is our 2018 version. Looks like rep v5

The print does not follow the Tapp on gen. it’s like a sticker placed on top

 

[MasterWatch]

And the bottom line is that out of all the variations on gen dials, a dial like that has yet to be made by AP. Period. What’s the fuss?

I don’t see anyone trolling just stating facts.

When one can not back up what they say with any thing concrete or add value to a discussion. They call the other person a troll. Very mature. Apparently maturity doesn't come with age. SMH

 

[MasterWatch]

Lots of different gen variations. This is our 2018 version. Looks like rep v5

The print does not follow the Tapp on gen. it’s like a sticker placed on top

Thank you for posting the picture.

But from the quality of picture it cannot to confirmed that the text is printed on plates like the JF V5. To me it still looks like it has been printed directly on the Dial on the Tapp. Just thier quality of printing is better.

Since you have a Gen, may I request a clearer close up picture to finally put this whole thing to rest.

Cheers!

 

[QueTip]

No plates. Print is straight on the dial.

 

[KSwatches]

Thank you for posting the picture.

But from the quality of picture it cannot to confirmed that the text is printed on plates like the JF V5. To me it still looks like it has been printed directly on the Dial on the Tapp. Just thier quality of printing is better.

Since you have a Gen, may I request a clearer close up picture to finally put this whole thing to rest.

Cheers!

I have all 3. Gen, Jf, omf....so not a google searcher.

I am not interested in the precise differences in photos but in real life at normal viewing distance, OMF sticker style printing looks closest to gen.

This is just my personal opinion.

Gen:

JF:

OMF:

[email protected]

 

[MasterWatch]

I have all 3. Gen, Jf, omf....so not a google searcher.

I am not interested in the precise differences in photos but in real life at normal viewing distance, OMF sticker style printing looks closest to gen.

This is just my personal opinion.

Gen:

JF:

OMF:

[email protected]

Thank you again for posting the pictures and clarification of your subjective stance on the topic of discussion.

As can be seen in your Gen Pic the SWISS MADE although looks close visually to the Plate printed OMF and JF. But in reality SWISS MADE is indeed printed on the the Tapp and directly on the Dial and Not on raised Plates. Giving the Gen printing an impression and contour of the underlying dial. Where the Plate Printed OMF and JF looks flat.

Hope we can finally put this matter to rest and move along enjoying this hobby.

 

[Tigerdragon]

When one can not back up what they say with any thing concrete or add value to a discussion. They call the other person a troll. Very mature. Apparently maturity doesn't come with age. SMH

I think I added more value to the forum than you ever have but thank you for the nice words and before you diss me again I have plenty of QC pics per day and I help everyone who is writing me a PM and not "dissing" people in a forum thread that's more your style.

I hope someday there is a ignore function on this forum I have enough of this endless discussions with people who just want to "fight".

But that's it for me every other post from our watch master will be ignored at my end.

Bye

Edit: ah tapatalk has an ignore function didn't knew that.

 

[SHB]

I have all 3. Gen, Jf, omf....so not a google searcher.

I am not interested in the precise differences in photos but in real life at normal viewing distance, OMF sticker style printing looks closest to gen.

This is just my personal opinion.

Gen:

JF:

OMF:

[email protected]

To me both first pics are jf, one plated the second printed on dial, blue color is 100% same.
I've read multiple time jf blue was wrong from v3 to v5.

 

[MasterWatch]

I think I added more value to the forum than you ever have but thank you for the nice words and before you diss me again I have plenty of QC pics per day and I help everyone who is writing me a PM and not "dissing" people in a forum thread that's more your style.

I hope someday there is a ignore function on this forum I have enough of this endless discussions with people who just want to "fight".

But that's it for me every other post from our watch master will be ignored at my end.

Bye

Edit: ah tapatalk has an ignore function didn't knew that.

You have helped so many people and have achieved so many great things. (Who does this sound like? An orange man comes to mind) I could care less if you are the Mother Theresa of the Rep community. What value have you added to this discussion? ZERO

I like to fight? You budged your head into a conversation which you had nothing to do with. With your unsubstantiated bullshit and got called out for trying to cozy up to a TD and now you are butt hurt.

The TD themselves clarified with thier very own pictures that what they said regarding the printing was subjective, thier personal Opinion and not a factual one. And we put it to rest there.

What have you done other than boast about yourself?

I dissed you? When you got called out and got put in your place for the lack of any substance in anything you posted in this discussion. You called me a troll when I have been posting Facts and nothing but that. While your arrogance did not allow you see past your narrowed vision.

So yes stay away from my posts if you cannot back up what you say with anything that's worth anything.

I challenge you to comb through my posts in this forum and the other forums and see if I have ever dissed anyone without a reason or budged into a conversation where I did not have anything thing valuable or positive to add; unlike yourself.

So yes instead of manning up and accepting that you are wrong. Ignore me.

For what it's worth you never existed to me and it will remain that way.

Cheers and so long!

 

[legend]

Tigerdragon take it easy guy.

I know MasterWatch personally as a friend and heck, I even know what his family looks like. He definitely is no troll and he is someone I am proud to call friend, after years of acquaintance and meaningful interaction. It is ok to disagree but please do not label him that way if you do not know him personally. He is the last guy to want to engage in a fight with anyone. His contention was a specific one, and to me, factual. That someone who happens to be a dealer here, made a remark that the print on the V5 dial is exactly like the gen one, when it is not. If said dealer had mentioned that it was his personal opinion at the time of proclaiming this fact, it would have all been fine. Most of the posts made are borne from different opinions anyway, and one more or less would not have made a difference.

I agree that you have helped a lot of members in other threads and I for one do value your input and posts. For some of us who are fortunate enough to own the gens like iwantaprettywatch, QueTip, mech500 etc and therefore be able to look at them anytime, no videos or pictures are necessary to validate a fact of how the gen is or isn't. But your posts and video comparisons are useful for those who are starting out in this hobby, and despite me disagreeing strongly with your label of my friend, I objectively agree that they mostly make good reference for members. You have no dog in this fight sir, and as such, lets not make it personal. M's contention, and mine, are not with you or even the dealer, but rather, with a posted false statement, trivial as it may seem. I do appreciate your posts and your material is no doubt useful reference. It is perfectly ok to disagree (in a healthy forum there are as much disagreements as there are agreements), and yes I believe in freedom of speech as long as it does not come across as personally offensive to someone else.

So lets all agree to just disagree peacefully and go our way. We are in essence debating someone which has significance only on this thread, and I do agree with KSwatches that the "SWISS MADE" print is something which cannot be relied upon effectively as a tell based on the sheer minuscule size of the print, and the usual distance of social interaction. We have all had our says, now lets move on from this matter collectively and have a good laugh about it. This is a hobby, not life and death.

 

[Tigerdragon]

legend

I take it easy but i hate when someone is attacking me for no reason so he is now on the ignorelist and that is fine for me

anyways back to topic.

P.S.: I don't own the gen but a friend of me does it is right that the gen dial you just cant replicate there is to much details, you can get close but never 1:1 and i personally like the printing of the new ones (if all the batch are the new ones and not mixxed up etc) but the tapseries i don't know they look a little better but still far from gen, in some angles it looks a little bit like gen but in others not so much but thats the difference between a 500 dollar rep and a 20k gen

 

[QueTip]

legend

I take it easy but i hate when someone is attacking me for no reason so he is now on the ignorelist and that is fine for me

anyways back to topic.

Tapa ignore function doesn’t work iirc. Regardless, is this done then? If this shit continues, this thread is closed quicker than anyone on here can say Fraudemars.

I am with legend and MasterWatch on this one. All that has been stated has been facts and solely facts.

It doesn’t matter one bit what anyone has done for this forum while in a discussion about topic x.

If you measure yourself like that to appear superior to any of your contrahends, you’re shit out of luck but not on the winning team.

You don’t want others (also people you’ve discussed with) to start doing it like that, you’ll also be on the losing team with having QCed a few subc‘s for people.

 

[Tigerdragon]

Function is working and no I don't see me "superior" I just don't want to get attacked that's all if he said it friendlier it would be not a problem for me but yeah now he is ignored anyways and I QC'd a bunch of more subs and aps and different brands (almost every day via pm and I always be friendly and help no problem with that). But yeah case is closed for me

 

[QueTip]

Okies. :lol: