I don't understand, you manage to find RWI, you can see that we have a whole list of trusted dealers and supporting vendors here and by sticking with them you are most likely safe from being scammed and or cheated.
But why still wanna find yourself an unknown, untested dealers? Because you don't trust our dealers? Because our dealers don't have the watch you want? Because you wanna prove that you are smarter than most members here? Or because you are gullible enough to believe all these swiss made AAA+ replica?
Why?:facepalm:
What caught my attention is they (there are 2 swiss sites BTW) have CONUS phone numbers to supposedly get someone live on the phone to answer questions *AND* none of the TDs claim to offer "100% swiss-made" cloned rolex movements, 904L steel cut with a 250 Ton Press, yada yada yada.
Example, the clone caliber 3135: (copied and Pasted)
POWER RESERVE: 38 hours
FREQUENCY: 28.800 vph (4Hz)
BALANCE WHEEL:
Glucydur gilt - anti-magnetic
MAINSPRING: Nivaflex NO
HAIRSPRING:
Nivarox 1
SHOCK SYSTEM:
ETA Incabloc
PALLET STONES:
Red rubies, Epilame-coated
LUBRICATION:
Swiss Nano oil
NUMBER OF JEWELS:
25
ADJUSTED POSITIONS:
5 CH, FH, 6H, 9H, 3H
LIFT ANGLE:
50 Degrees
DAILY RATE:
Max +/- 6 s/d COSC Specs – ISO 3159
POSITIONAL ERROR:
Max +/- 15 s/d COSC Specs – ISO 3159
If what they claim is true, I would have a real super-rep which they claim to be almost impossible to dispute *even* if opened by a jeweler. Swiss-made watch and movement, parts, crystal, lume. This, to me is like buying a real Rolex without paying for the high worldwide advertising, dealer profit margins, etc etc.
I really believe the $8-13K price tag of a Sub or DSSD, *COSTS* an AD half
($3-7K) to Rolex NA, and most of that is Rolex's way of keeping the brand exclusive, advertising, sponsorships, and to cover a network of offices and misc overhead expenses. Actual cost of manufacturing, reasonable profit and amortization on equipment, real assets etc, spread over their volume, is probably only $650-850 per watch (non gold or bling). I don't have a problem with all this, but if I can find a product with 98-99% of the quality, something that will last a lifetime trouble free, keep COSC time, can be lovingly handed down, indistinguishable from the gen under testing, magnification and internal inspection by a certified jeweler, you have my attention!
I can purchase a brand new gen Tissot heritage Seastar Visodate, 100% swiss made, for under $450, with a gen ETA movement. This prolly cost the dealer about $300 to Tissot NA, and cost Tissot $100 to actually manufacture. Rolex, being already set up with all the proper tooling and equipment, and the costs spread over the volume they produce, and without all the additional overhead, could probably sell a sub to a dealer for $650-$850 and still be making a handsome profit, in my estimation. Now I could be way off on this but that's what I believe.
I posted this originally to see if anyone had actual *experience* with this vendor, or heard 2nd hand of any experiences, not conjecture or opinion. I did a search on this site front, back and sideways and could not find reference to this vendor or class of rep.
Maybe I'll just have to take one for the team and let you know, but it is not a trivial amount of money so I'll continue to do more research. Thanks for all your responses.