I own a DSN 057C and it has the perfect correct hobnail, and recessed power reserve. I'm not sure if his pics show it or not. But the Newborn one def does I'm wearing one right now. Pics are REALLY tough sometimes to pic it up for some reason. He may have had a older version without it????????? But the current 057C Newborn has the perfect tobacco color, recessed power reserve, and hobnail 100% The dial is amazing. There is NO possible way I'd ever know it wasn't gen. The hobnail is perfect. I SUCK at taking pics but I can try my best to see if I can take a good one. I really really am bad taking pics, posting them and such. If anyone lives in CONUS and wants me to try to take pics, I'll text them to someone who can post them here. The dial is far from flat!!!!! It is SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! For $700 it should be! lol Of course only IMHO... boutique class
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1st and 4th pic down are NOT a good pics and don't show depth at all. But if you look really close you can see the dial well enough to tell its a hobnail. You can't at all see the depth of it at all however and you can't remotely see that recessed power reserve. If you can see the recessed power reserve pic #1 I guess is best. It wouldn't make a lick of sense to use the correct movement and the wrong dial. It woukld be a utter waste of the best of the best movement ever used. He'd sell a ton if the pics were better, the pics stink. Some of the newbies would never pay $700 for a watch like that, but if you know that watch its worth every penny. (no I don't work for DSN but have had a few uber pams!)
1st and 4th pic down are NOT a good pics and don't show depth at all. But if you look really close you can see the dial well enough to tell its a hobnail. You can't at all see the depth of it at all however and you can't remotely see that recessed power reserve. If you can see the recessed power reserve pic #1 I guess is best. It wouldn't make a lick of sense to use the correct movement and the wrong dial. It woukld be a utter waste of the best of the best movement ever used. He'd sell a ton if the pics were better, the pics stink. Some of the newbies would never pay $700 for a watch like that, but if you know that watch its worth every penny. (no I don't work for DSN but have had a few uber pams!)
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Many thanks
Really your information is welcome because it was a pity that such a good replica was a bad evaluation due to an inaccurate dial.
At this moment I have upgraded it to super rep, following your information and my last data from Davidsen about it.
I will try to get some better pics from David
Many thanks again. In this way we can get better results for the future guide.
ALE
No problem, if you can't get pics from DSN, have someone PM me, if RG is back up I'm mainly there however but I'll check back in here. While I stink at posting pics I can try to take some good ones, and text message the pics to a RWI member post them easier on here. The hobnail is excellent, and very textured. Cyclops machined into crystal like gen (not glued), font upgraded on DW and its thick. Comes super lumed, with nice CG thats flush with case. He states the CB is already thicker then it used to be, but I can't compare that to gen. Looks better then my 027 so I'm guessing its been upgraded as he states. The problem is when taking pics the hobnail (waffle pattern) doesn't show unless there is a lot of light. In most lighting it looks flat. Under bright light its amazing and power reserve is recessed nicely as well, with a rare Soprod its a very accurate rep! Its nice to see a forum that the members are so willing to accept new info, and ideas!!!!!!!!!!! I mean that sincerely. Again in no way shape or form do I have any connection to DSN nor am I a even regular DSN customer but with that "gen" movement its a nice piece slightly better then the 027 which is awesome as well. Its a shame to see he's not out of stock yet, the only reason it must be is because his pics stink. And its $700 lol The Noob, and H factory stuff thats been coming out is so stinking good its really killed the market for this level of watch with this level of "gen" movement, and Soprod. Which IMHO is great since the hobby has become more affordable, and lessor priced reps are becoming far more awesome then ever before.
I'd say if anyone wants one however they should message him, I think he may offer a bit better price these days as well since there is so much competition.
I'd say if anyone wants one however they should message him, I think he may offer a bit better price these days as well since there is so much competition.
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Updated EVALUATION LIST PAM Replicas- 20 May 2012
Dear friends
Following your kind and useful information and my last studies including PAM DSN replicas, I have updated the Evalution list which you can find in the first post.
More or less, modifications pending, this will be the Evaluation to be included in my Future Review Guide of PAM replicas
Many thanks to you all for your helpful, useful and kind contributions.
ALE
Dear friends
Following your kind and useful information and my last studies including PAM DSN replicas, I have updated the Evalution list which you can find in the first post.
More or less, modifications pending, this will be the Evaluation to be included in my Future Review Guide of PAM replicas
Many thanks to you all for your helpful, useful and kind contributions.
ALE
Pam207A from DSN (new edition)
I consider this first class rep.
2 issues,
1. Seconds subdial is a bit small
2. CB is not as accurate as it could be.
I consider this first class rep.
2 issues,
1. Seconds subdial is a bit small
2. CB is not as accurate as it could be.
How abouth Pam 40b from DSN???
Is it tobacco or black dial??? he declares brown but All I finf black
New made 44mm Titanium Case
New up graded titanium Historical Crown Guard
doubled sealed Ti crown
New sapphire with new AR coating
asian 6497 movt
Superlumed tobacco dial+ matching hands
New thick and deep engrave Titanium B serrie Case back
Leather strap with ti logo buckle
Is it tobacco or black dial??? he declares brown but All I finf black
New made 44mm Titanium Case
New up graded titanium Historical Crown Guard
doubled sealed Ti crown
New sapphire with new AR coating
asian 6497 movt
Superlumed tobacco dial+ matching hands
New thick and deep engrave Titanium B serrie Case back
Leather strap with ti logo buckle
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As far as I know the PAM 040 is Black dial following indications of Panersiti.com and PaneraiSource.com
This replica PAM 040 form DSN is already classified as First Class replica in the first post
ALE
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I don't see the PAM 207 in the new catalogue from DSN
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k515/dsnwatches/
Maybe it is discontinued
ALE
Yes, I don't know this gen model
I know PAM 217 Destro version
This is a CG on the right version of PAM 217 Marina Militare
But the CG on the right version PAM 127 is not Marina Militare
I think it is a fantasy watch
ALE
Here it is Ale...under '5218-207a white dial'
http://s1113.photobucket.com/albums/k515/dsnwatches/Pam%2044mm%20Pre%20V%20watches/Pam%20%205218-207a%20whie%20dial/
Regards
Phil
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OK
Thanks Phil. Now I see it
But it is a Pre-Vendôme model and my Guide is only for Vendôme models Pre-A and A,B,C,D,E,F,G,........,N
I have not studied either Vintage nor Pre-Vendôme
Due to above mentioned I have not this replica in my list
Sorry
ALE
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No... my friends !!!
You are right !!
The PAM 5218-207a is a correct model of PAM.
But it is Pre-Vendome and I am just studying the Vendome
It is not your mistake
No worries
I repeat you are right and your knowledge is correct
ALE
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That depends only on your taste my friend: Smart, classy, sporty, chrono, SS, PVD, titanium, brushed, polished, contrasted, sandwich dial, sausage, Luminior, Radiomir, GMT.........
Consult the list of Super reps and choose the model you like
When you have some choices you can consult again about opinions
Don't leave aside the First class reps if you like someone
Thanks for this nice review, just ordered myself a 243, I hope it will turn out well, as this is my first try on a rep.