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Ethical thoughts on buying reps

restandrelaxation

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However I do think that the moral and ethic codes of western countries should be a global benchmark and it actually is if you look at the OECD framework some companies have adapted. This argument of local workers is sometimes also heard in Columbia or Bolivia where they claim that no other work than harvesting of coca plants is available. This might be true but it should not be seen as a justification in my eyes... Long way to go in some countries.
I'm not even sure where to start with this. I think you might be living in a bubble.

I think it's also important for you to recognise that it is a criminal offence to import counterfeit goods into Switzerland.
So, if you want to import a rep watch it's illegal, if you can live with being a criminal you should be fine with the fact it's potentially been made wherever by whoever.


 

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Thats because you haven't understood that for a lot of the world, your morals and ethics are abhorrent.
If the very foundation of the western world is abhorrent for these parts of world so be it... Along the road they need to justify their action to their population not I.
 

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If the very foundation of the western world is abhorrent for these parts of world so be it... Along the road they need to justify their action to their population not I.
The foundation of the western world can also be described as it being built on slavery and syphilis...
 
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Nah, Rolex lost any sympathy/loyalty I may have had when I found they aren't interested in me walking into a store and buying their product.
In Korea Rolex will not even let me in the store to look at their empty cases. I call my rep my Rolex Recenge watch. No sympathy for Rolex.
 

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In Korea Rolex will not even let me in the store to look at their empty cases. I call my rep my Rolex Recenge watch. No sympathy for Rolex.
The worst in terms of how they treat customers is apparently in Dubai from what I've heard
 

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repmakers are still thieves in the sense that they steal designs.
If I can correct you on that somewhat. Its actually next to impossible to copyright a watch design, unless its something very specific like an AP. The Submariner, for example, is far too generic an idea to qualify for any legal protection. Its dial is round, and so is that of a clock. It has round hour markers, which are not unique, with a Mercedes handset which is also somewhat generic. Its all held in place with a metal bracelet which too is not unique to Rolex.

The cardinal sin of replicas is theft of the logo and marks - I'm not sure anyone here really cares about that. But no doubt some will clutch pearls over those poor, rich, fat, old Swiss men loosing out.
 
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Happens with a lot of luxury good now. Cars, etc
Not only luxury goods. There are massive global supply chain disruptions for groceries and other non-luxury products due to local wars and the pandemic.

Never in my lifetime have I seen empty shelves (or at least big gaps) in supermarkets in the UK or EU. Cola could become unavailable soon, for example, due to the war in Sudan, because apparently the country is the largest supplier of an important production resource needed for Cola softdrinks. Or another example: Grain production has problems due to the Russian invasion because Ukraine is the number one global grain producer...

Also, the last 2 times I picked up stuff at a large pharmacy chain in a 500k+ inhabitants German city, I overheard elderly customers being rejected at the counter and told to go back to their physicians to get new prescriptions because their meds are currently unavailable (and, quote, "won't be available, probably for the entirety of 2023").

Unlike rich people not immediately getting their Rolex or Ferrari, elderly folks who massively worked their asses off their entire lives not getting the medicine they're used and entitled to, is what really worries me. 😔
 
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but no doubt some will clutch pearls over those poor, rich, fat, old Swiss men loosing out.
What living definition of a clown would spend countless hours perfecting the look of a replica (nothing wrong with reps at all) based on a swiss watch and at the same time look down on swiss men as a whole (the same men and of course women who invented those pieces).
 

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If you're going to obsess on how anything you purchase or consume is made, sourced or processed....... you're going to starve and live a very boring life.
Exactly.

And the absolute best are hypocrites like Greta Thunberg (with whom I not necessarily disagree with), preaching environmental awareness and better practice, and then getting photographed having breakfast with food products entirely wrapped in plastic.

If you're gonna preach, buy your food at sustainable grocery shops without plastic wrap and not at Walmart, for f*cks sake. 🙄
 

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What living definition of a clown would spend countless hours perfecting the look of a replica (nothing wrong with reps at all) based on a swiss watch and at the same time look down on swiss men as a whole (the same men and of course women who invented those pieces).
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I'm trying my best to keep it cute and civil but the last comment about swiss men just got under my skin :D
It shouldn't.

I am quite sure it was just sarcasm. I don't think that @muiramas really thinks that all Swiss men who build great watches are rich, fat and old.

Everyone knows that they are just rich and old. 😆😝
 
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Ok ok.
On the left corner we have the cynicals, on the right corner the idealists, together here today to continue the endless battle of the two chief world systems. Let the fight begin.
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What living definition of a clown would spend countless hours perfecting the look of a replica (nothing wrong with reps at all) based on a swiss watch and at the same time look down on swiss men as a whole (the same men and of course women who invented those pieces).
Chill Eule1789. I wasn't taking about Swiss men as a whole, rather the folks who owned the brands - which does not mean the designers / inventors either - even if they were Swiss - are they? / maybe / who knows...

I know a lot of folks who work in Neuechatel many of whom who aren't Swiss.
 
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