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Disappointing Z-Factory Bronzo PAM 382 has Bad Build Quality/QC

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Like this, but I second the op´s opinion. At a 500 USD price-tag at least the basic assembly should be fine and work. Seiko does it with the SKX007 and SNZH 57 for a third of the price and Steinhart manages it with warranty and certified waterproofness at this level. So it´s just the part of wanting it to be well assembled.
In China 500 Usd still is a lot of money but in EU/US it is too, hey You get a perfect laptop at these levels and the buttons don´t come off and the screen doesn´t flicker - and it´s taxed and comes with a warranty. It´s just my opinion.
I´m not forced to buy it and I don´t - but maybe I would if You just could trust it to work normally (not exceptionally). BTW don´t have the APROO either but love the Diver. Sorry for the rant but sometimes it just has to be.
 

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A rep will always be a rep, regardless of price. If you can't handle that simple fact, then the rep game isn't for you.

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A rep will always be a rep, regardless of price. If you can't handle that simple fact, then the rep game isn't for you.

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I have 30+ reps. None of them have a wobbly bezel. Regardless of the price.
 
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A rep will always be a rep, regardless of price. If you can't handle that simple fact, then the rep game isn't for you.

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Couldn´t agree less:) If the 188 or 220 rep was crap I got it fixed or got another. I didn´t argue about it with the TD either. At 500 + shipping You simply can´t start doing that without going totally broke. These recent 40% and 50% and 100% price increases for new releases will be a game-changer as together with these prices comes a demand for higher quality from the community - Just wait and see. And I´m happy with the collection I do have anyway, good quality too:)
 

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I got mine yesterday mounted it on my Wotancraft Amazon the watch already developed some platina yes the pearl is not perfect the cannon pin is a bit high but that's it and I love everything about it when I got the 389 it was nice well built but this wears with presence everyone notices it and it will just get better with time for 500$ it blows my AP 42 ROO which ratels with the movement shanking and supposedly that's a NOOB master piece for 600$ I do not think KW will be much better and a bit late in the game
 

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I think this watch is worth every penny. For a small fraction of the gen. Don't let Replica Owner Complex (credit to TC ) ruin it for you.
 

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I just don't think it is super rep regardless of the little flaws. Too much wrong for me to buy the first version. That said it is a nice watch, just waiting for a super rep of this....
 

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A rep will always be a rep, regardless of price. If you can't handle that simple fact, then the rep game isn't for you.

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well said! i have loved this watch since it was released and when they finally announced a rep was being made, i was over the moon. im happy to pay $500 to own something that originally costs ~$30K watch. sure there may be flaws here and there but it is a replica.. and its $500 as opposed to $30k.

this is a hobby for me so im happy just to add it to my collection!

however this is my view and im not forcing it upon anyone else.

sick of looking at hsmoothie's pictures lol...waiting for mine to be delivered now
 

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I second that. No way in hell will people spot your rep. Comparing a 500 rep and 30k gen pc is just stupid. If there is too much disappointment, get out of the rep game and save up and buy gens.

I will spot it but that is only because I know the game..
 

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I have 30+ reps. None of them have a wobbly bezel. Regardless of the price.

I have gone through twice that many reps and I could find a fault in each one of them if I wanted to. A rep is a rep. Buy a gen if you want a gen.

Couldn´t agree less:) If the 188 or 220 rep was crap I got it fixed or got another. I didn´t argue about it with the TD either. At 500 + shipping You simply can´t start doing that without going totally broke. These recent 40% and 50% and 100% price increases for new releases will be a game-changer as together with these prices comes a demand for higher quality from the community - Just wait and see. And I´m happy with the collection I do have anyway, good quality too:)


If you can't take a chance on a $500 rep, then you probably shouldn't buy one. Who are you imaging putting these reps together?
 

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I have gone through twice that many reps and I could find a fault in each one of them if I wanted to. A rep is a rep. Buy a gen if you want a gen.

I can as well. It's a matter of which flaws you can live with and which you don't.
 

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Let's wait for the KW version guys as well and discuss quality issues by then. IF KW delivers again for roughly the same price, then this conversation is futile. Proper assembly is required in the PAM game, look at the later 388, 346 reps from KW, that's how a super rep is made. ZF was in a hurry to hit the market before KW, made money on this, but won't be able to do it again I hope....

This 382 from ZF is beautiful, but I would never preorder something like this upfront. Never. Just my 2 cents.
 

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Well.. I went the path of self destruction ;) Ordered ZF version today and already have placed order for KW version. I will do C&R sale with the lesser one but before that I will have both of reps at the same time to directly compare.