Disappointed with QF Daytona Meteorite (Heavy Version)

[serumdiesel]

No one who's actually got precious metal Daytona type money is asking to hold or even to see your watch.

Sure they are, but it’s more common among younger crowds. It’s also perfectly reasonable to say “fuck no” especially if it’s some random you’re chatting with at the bar (and just good practice, in that case), but among personal associates who are also watch nerds, passing each others’ new watch around is commonly offered and expected.

 

[CloneVsAuthentic]

How about chucking it on an oysterflex either grey or black, granted its not a nice as an oyster but solves all the issues of a cheap bracelet and the weight, it also has a more understated look that has a cool appeal on a precious metal watch!

I dont dislike your idea, the real Oysterflex daytona has a different case right?

My challenge with an oysterflex is the clasp of the QF replica that still cheap AF

 

[CloneVsAuthentic]

Sure they are, but it’s more common among younger crowds. It’s also perfectly reasonable to say “fuck no” especially if it’s some random you’re chatting with at the bar (and just good practice, in that case), but among personal associates who are also watch nerds, passing each others’ new watch around is commonly offered and expected.

you are right, happens to me all the time. I am a Gen watch collector (see my post on real watch weight) and got really mad at Rolex for not being able to source a Daytona so decide to go on reps. Very common with friends to ask to hold or wear.

 

[Reaps]

you are right, happens to me all the time. I am a Gen watch collector (see my post on real watch weight) and got really mad at Rolex for not being able to source a Daytona so decide to go on reps. Very common with friends to ask to hold or wear.

Well that's because you're trying to pass your fake off as real.

 

[Reaps]

The advice commonly stands : probably not the best idea to pass fakes off as real, especially with fellow collectors or friends and family. You can but there will be situations where it might get awkward for you. Disregard if you're a multi multi millionaire.

The other thing about taking off your watch and handing it to people - I mean I've never been in a situation where someone has forced me to take off my watch so they can inspect it. Even at watch collecting events or horology events people will respect if you decline to take off.

 

[CloneVsAuthentic]

Friend let me chime in. I’m reading this thread about the weight and color tone from a white gold precious metal vs steel, and QF poor feeling bracelet, when I see in one look that it’s a rep from the wrong SEL.

116509 has protruding SEL. Clean nailed all the details and dimensions on the 116509 as it’s true 1:1 replication, including perfect bezel engravings. What’s the point grinding on about weight, color and quality when it screams replica at a glance. Just my 3 cents

I've learned about the protruding SEL on 116509 from this thread tbh.. not I cannot unsee it. Is it specific to this model I guess?

On another note, is that a fact that Clean does 116509s? because I haven't seen one

 

[Rx4Time]

... My two cents. Since you're not happy with the qf, sell it and pick up a non-precious metal version from ETF or clean which will have a much better build quality.

 

[CloneVsAuthentic]

The advice commonly stands : probably not the best idea to pass fakes off as real, especially with fellow collectors or friends and family. You can but there will be situations where it might get awkward for you. Disregard if you're a multi multi millionaire.

The other thing about taking off your watch and handing it to people - I mean I've never been in a situation where someone has forced me to take off my watch so they can inspect it. Even at watch collecting events or horology events people will respect if you decline to take off.

haven't seen anybody forcing either, it is more on a casual setting when someone in the group has a new watch. Honestly this is not what makes me look for some sort of perfeccion. It is the feel and look, I really chose to buy a Daytona rep out of pure joy to see if I like enough to buy the real later.

Funny to say I remember back in time around 2015 when I entered Watches of Switzerland Rolex Boutique at Heathrow airport wearing a Milgauss replica and purchased the real one, exchanged on the wrist and left wearing the Gen and the replica on the Gen box. The gentleman of Rolex and I had a good laugh.

 

[CloneVsAuthentic]

... My two cents. Since you're not happy with the qf, sell it and pick up a non-precious metal version from ETF or clean which will have a much better build quality.

agree, will prob sell for a bit less, happy to take a bit of the hit and pass to another person who will be happy with it

 

[serumdiesel]

you are right, happens to me all the time. I am a Gen watch collector (see my post on real watch weight) and got really mad at Rolex for not being able to source a Daytona so decide to go on reps. Very common with friends to ask to hold or wear.

Yup, happens all the time, and among friends and personal associates it’s just an expectation.

However, as a public service announcement to everyone here: better to not ever take your watch off for some rando, regardless of how friendly the banter may have been or how safe the circumstances may appear, especially if it’s gen or any piece you give a shit about for whatever reason. Ask me how I know.

 

[CloneVsAuthentic]

Yup, happens all the time, and among friends and personal associates it’s just an expectation.

However, as a public service announcement to everyone here: better to not ever take your watch off for some rando, regardless of how friendly the banter may have been or how safe the circumstances may appear, especially if it’s gen or any piece you give a shit about for whatever reason. Ask me how I know.

you got my attention, what is your story?

 

[m5smg2]

I've learned about the protruding SEL on 116509 from this thread tbh.. not I cannot unsee it. Is it specific to this model I guess?

On another note, is that a fact that Clean does 116509s? because I haven't seen one

Yes. Not only does Clean make the 116509 but it is on point in every detail. It’s the only choice:

 

[serumdiesel]

you got my attention, what is your story?

Last sentence was just a rhetorical device for effect, but long story short, I was a complete dumbass while traveling and lost one of my most valued timepieces because of it to some scumbag piece of shit who I'd been chatting with for some time in a cigar bar. And given the full nature of what went down, I had been followed and cased by the guy and his crew for some time before it happened so it wasn't a random, spur-of-the-moment event.

Anyhow, nowadays, I don't take my watch off for anyone as a rule, excepting personal associates who I know well.

 

[TerryRobot]

Sure they are, but it’s more common among younger crowds. It’s also perfectly reasonable to say “fuck no” especially if it’s some random you’re chatting with at the bar (and just good practice, in that case), but among personal associates who are also watch nerds, passing each others’ new watch around is commonly offered and expected.

In this case then its best not to try and palm off a rep as a gen, i would have thought on stainless models its not so bad btu on gold models white, yg or rg, its gonna be stressful if you get caught out and even if you went and bought the gen of it straight after you would of lost the audience by then as they would onl remeber the rep you had!

If you can easily afford to purchase the gen based on the other parts of your lifestyle and type of income then its unlikely to be questioned, but when you are rocking a hard to get 50K plus watch model and the watch nerds would no this and probably looked at YT vids on real vs fake looks will be more important, most peops will never of held a full gold model to know its real weight its just the perception when they first fell a gen one "wow its got some weight"

I wouldnt be inthe habit of passign a watch around unless you are 100% confident about it, which is why Clean and other SS models are still king as the weight issue is not a problem, all "weighted" watches need the bracelet to have an equal amoutn fo the overall weight and to be fair thats where its most felt in the hand not just the head.

Using the Oyster Flex or a nice leather strap solve that issue if you must, getting the likes of a Panda is fine as its just SS but still hard to get hold of as was its previous model the white face DT.

 

[Guiltycat]

@m5smg2 I’ve noticed the protruding end links on WG and RG Daytonas but I don’t see them on YG models.
Am I just blind? Or is that how it is

 

[m5smg2]

@m5smg2 I’ve noticed the protruding end links on WG and RG Daytonas but I don’t see them on YG models.
Am I just blind? Or is that how it is

You’re not blind lol, and good point. the 11 yellow gold bracelet models use the steel case and bracelet mold. You’ll notice both the steel and yellow gold 11 use the narrow case ( bezel is wider than case) and short lugs.

The Rose and White gold 11 series use a wider case (case is wider than bezel), longer lugs, and protruding SEL

 

[TheBigJS]

On another note, is that a fact that Clean does 116509s? because I haven't seen one

https://www.intime06.co/rollie/9617...ion-gray-dial-on-904l-ss-bracelet-sa4130.html

116509 on InTime site, c/w correct protruding endlinks.

 

[Guiltycat]

You’re not blind lol, and good point. the 11 yellow gold bracelet models use the steel case and bracelet mold. You’ll notice both the steel and yellow gold 11 use the narrow case ( bezel is wider than case) and short lugs.

The Rose and White gold 11 series use a wider case (case is wider than bezel), longer lugs, and protruding SEL

You’ve put my mind at ease haha
I’ve been wondering about this for the longest time
Thanks

 

[derjenigewelcher]

All together just SELL THE WATCH IN M2M and take a loss of 50-200 like a man.

Then you will have cash for another watch and learned a lessen

 

[TheBigJS]

You’re not blind lol, and good point. the 11 yellow gold bracelet models use the steel case and bracelet mold. You’ll notice both the steel and yellow gold 11 use the narrow case ( bezel is wider than case) and short lugs.

The Rose and White gold 11 series use a wider case (case is wider than bezel), longer lugs, and protruding SEL

So, this (the OP's watch) is a steel case mold and will never be correct, even with a gen bracelet?