i have seen new batches of the 36mm has a fixed STEELINOX , maybe its near NWBIG territory now?
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[CONSENSUAL LIST] Super Reps NWBIGs
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Rolex 114300, 39mm, Grape and Grey dial JF (now ARF, service is recommended)
A bit of guidance please gents…
What is the rationale for the Grey and Grape being NWBIG, but not the white or black? Black is the easiest to replicate….
My knowledge of movements is progressing, albeit slowly. Is the recommended service due to the movement, or more relative to the factory/batch?
A bit of guidance please gents…
What is the rationale for the Grey and Grape being NWBIG, but not the white or black? Black is the easiest to replicate….
My knowledge of movements is progressing, albeit slowly. Is the recommended service due to the movement, or more relative to the factory/batch?
Rolex 114300, 39mm, Grape and Grey dial JF (now ARF, service is recommended)
A bit of guidance please gents…
What is the rationale for the Grey and Grape being NWBIG, but not the white or black? Black is the easiest to replicate….
My knowledge of movements is progressing, albeit slowly. Is the recommended service due to the movement, or more relative to the factory/batch?
A bit of guidance please gents…
What is the rationale for the Grey and Grape being NWBIG, but not the white or black? Black is the easiest to replicate….
My knowledge of movements is progressing, albeit slowly. Is the recommended service due to the movement, or more relative to the factory/batch?
Rolex 114300, 39mm, Grape and Grey dial JF (now ARF, service is recommended)
A bit of guidance please gents…
What is the rationale for the Grey and Grape being NWBIG, but not the white or black? Black is the easiest to replicate….
My knowledge of movements is progressing, albeit slowly. Is the recommended service due to the movement, or more relative to the factory/batch?
This was when JF released them, there were NO white or black dial available.
When JF released them, the GEN 114300 was ONLY available in:
- grey (rhodium)
- grape
- blue
A service recommendation for these JF movement was done always, cause their 3135 and 3130 (3132) movement were so dirty and bad assembled, that they broke more or less after a few weeks.
Nowadays or later the GEN 114300 was intruduced with white and black dial.
But to this time, JF already dissapeared and ARF was also not making these models with white or black version.
==>> this is the reason or explanation
This is super helpful and much appreciated!
Now that ARF are producing the movements, is it less urgent to get the movement serviced right away?
As far as I know, the 114300 isn't produced by ARF anymore either. 39mm is gone, their focus is on 36/41mm OP
I recall seeing that EWF makes the 39mm OP
I recall seeing that EWF makes the 39mm OP
I am not sure if some TDs have still some ARF 39mm OP 114300
The EWF = this is not a NWBIG .... no chance, the EWF is not so close to GEN as JF or ARF was
When I was looking for the arf rhodium, nor Sead, Steve or Hont could find it. I found one in M2M
126610 VSF definetly needs to be on the top of the list, I just have given one to a watch repair guy been in business for over 20 years for full service also I told him it was replica, when I was to get it back he ask me if I was sure that was replica? I told him yes he was really surprise and said to him looks as genuine he will never guessed to be a replica, well he told me also mostly he have been working with way older Rolex models and rarely have work on anything less than 10 - 15 years old models. Before the service accuracy was around + 10 seconds a day after the service for the last month is been running like minus 1-2 seconds per day, before the service power reserve was 68 hours I have not test the power reserve after the service, not sure if service will have any effect on the PR.
You mean that one?
All the 116610 and 126610 VSF subs are effectively on the list I'd say.
The rehaut is relatively easy to improve, shame the pics are missing as the improvement is considerable.
So I tried to polish rehaut on VSF 126610LN
Hey all, Just wanted to share my results of rehaut polish on a VSF 126610LN. I am pretty happy with the results, in real life it does pop more than on pictures, but I could have polished a bit more. I was worried about overpolishing it - there's a thread on reddit where rehaut was so...forum.replica-watch.info
for someone who does not handle those often, I 100% understand.
If you have the chance to get a well finished movement inside, the only big tells are the balance wheel and outside the SS indices and hands YG
i have been procrastinating to get me one
Which watch will be the closest Daytona Panda?First of all : You shouldn't renounce to buy a watch just because it's not listed here.
Remember that 95% of people don't look at your watch and only 1% of the 5% can tell a rep from a gen. Don't be worried !
Please understand that NWBIG doesn't necessarily mean "Super Rep".
This thread is not only about NWBIG watches, but also Super Rep NWBIGs !
Any NWBIG is not worth buying in gen. A watch can be NWBIG without being a Super Rep because the tell is acceptable.
But a Super Rep is necessarily NWBIG. That's what this thread is about : Watches that are not worth buying gen AND are very hardly distinguishable from the gen.
I double checked all the watches in every page. I've gone in all the reviews thread I could find for every single of these watches to make sure they actually were considered as Super Reps. I noticed a few of these had issues or were "under debate". Some of them actually were not even Super Reps although they were often considered like they were (with obvious tells (so not NWBIG)).
Once I finished doing the whole thing and after reading around 200 threads, I decided to create this list.
Please, you have to understand that I've been very demanding.
If there is any obvious tell you can spot quickly, it's NO SUPER REP, it can still be NWBIG tho if you need to be an expert in the particular model to spot it.
This list is, what I consider, THE Super Reps list.
In other words, I need your help for that, I would like to create a list that anyone could participate to build, discuss, debate, update; that anyone can USE and that is CONSENSUAL.
If you see any mistake in the list, feel free to tell me.
If you see any watch in the list that has an obvious tell, let's discuss it.
What I want is something clear, easy to read and accepted by everyone (or almost).
Most importantly, remember that even a Super Rep IS a Replica. THIS IS NOT ABOUT PERFECTION !
There will ALWAYS BE a difference. This is about going AS CLOSE AS WE CAN to GEN.
This thread is about watches that you should not buy gen because the Replicas listed in here are so good that the price difference between the GEN and the REP would NOT be justified !
Of course GEN will ALWAYS be superior even in the smallest way.
PLEASE, if you disagree with something TELL US WHY.
Should it go in or out of the list, LET US KNOW.
And if you see someone that disagrees with you, TALK ABOUT THAT, give us your input.
I will update this list as soon as THERE IS A CONSENSUS.
While it's UNDER DEBATE, I won't.
Since the last forum update, I can't update this list anymore, please click the following link for the updated list:
CONSENSUAL SUPER REP LIST UPDATED - OMAGAD RWI
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The FIRST CLASS++ category is basically a SUPER REP on the wrist (with a small (has to be minor) tell on the case back!)
FIRST CLASS category are very good reps, very close to gen, but with one obvious tell for anyone knowing what to look for or with side by side comparison. Please note that there are many watches out there that could fit into the FIRST CLASS category.
This one is only about watches that have been discussed HERE as potential Super Reps and didn't get the status.
I hope you enjoy my dedication and I hope to be part of this incredible RWI forum for long time.
Thanks for reading, please join us ! Any suggestion is welcome.
Credits to those who participated to the original list (@timnic54 and @simonjay, and @ALE7575 for PAMs) and all the participants of the previous thread (too many of you to name), all the guides makers and all of those who will participate here. Special thanks also to Repworld for his continuous will and dedication to enhance this list...
The absolute best quality Daytona Pandas are from here.
That Dealer you linked seems to have ALL NWBIGs from all the brands in existence!
Why it is NOT a Trusted Dealer here on RWI ?
Chrono24 is a Grey Market GEN dealer, not a REP dealer. I assume the post was sarcastic.That Dealer you linked seems to have ALL NWBIGs from all the brands in existence!
Why it is NOT a Trusted Dealer here on RWI ?
Maybe it was
who knows dear first time poster!What an amazing first post!Maybe it was
These new members have A LOT of confidence, you know !