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Comparison VSF 126610LN vs. GEN
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traderjoe1968
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Addendum/Update:
During the time I had this watch (it was sold) a lot has happened on the REP market, especially for this model.
As of today, I can recommend the Clean Factory 126610 to a newbie or someone who is looking for "The best sub" for 3 reasons.
1. The bracelet there is from ARF and of impeccable quality
2. The background of the rehaut is more polished than on VSF, which is an instant tell on VSF (and the other replicas).
3. The VS3235 movement winds fine, but the "washer" that holds the crown wheel down when there is a lot of tension on the mainspring is made of paper-thin material and surprisingly very cheaply made. That is why the crown wheel often spins during the winding process in these movements. This is better with the VR3235.
During the time I had this watch (it was sold) a lot has happened on the REP market, especially for this model.
As of today, I can recommend the Clean Factory 126610 to a newbie or someone who is looking for "The best sub" for 3 reasons.
1. The bracelet there is from ARF and of impeccable quality
2. The background of the rehaut is more polished than on VSF, which is an instant tell on VSF (and the other replicas).
3. The VS3235 movement winds fine, but the "washer" that holds the crown wheel down when there is a lot of tension on the mainspring is made of paper-thin material and surprisingly very cheaply made. That is why the crown wheel often spins during the winding process in these movements. This is better with the VR3235.
Great review! Thanks for taking the time to write. I have heard people mention the floating ‘m’ where the m in “300m” isn’t properly aligned. Do you have a picture comparing the VSF and Gen on this?
Hoping that the new ZF is going to be a step above both
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No, the VR3235 is a hybrid that uses many 3135 parts. Among other things, the VR3235 dial side has all 3135 calendar parts except the date indicator seating, which will take the 3235 dials.
The VR3235 has the 3135 separate winding bridge which is why it doesn't have the winding slippage issues that the VS can have. The VS and gen winding bridge is combined with the train bridge and the winding gears are configured differently. The VS3235 winding issues are due to cheap rep parts and not a gen design flaw.
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Exactly as I thought.
That why I found it hard to understand why @derjenigewelcher said it is hard to top Clean becoz of the movement. Clean is using the VR version of 3235, aren't they?
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Hey Buddy. For me, if I can chose between a movement with sliding / winding issue and another which does not have that - I choose the one which does not has that. But thats me, others may buy VS3235 and put some efforts in this movement.
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Clean does use the VR3235. Unless you are going to add gen parts the VR3235 is a solid movement. I've had other issues with VS3235s and so have others - primarily balance assemblies - so I have replaced VS with VR where needed.
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Hey Guys.
Since this was almost 2 years now and I already sold the VSF Model, I just ordered the CLEAN Factory newest one (produced september 2022).
I will make a Review/comparison to the GEN i still have if you wish. And to the VSF of course
Since this was almost 2 years now and I already sold the VSF Model, I just ordered the CLEAN Factory newest one (produced september 2022).
I will make a Review/comparison to the GEN i still have if you wish. And to the VSF of course
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what exactly it is about VSF's rehaut that isn't so good?
the letters? the finish of the rest of the metal?
i've been staring at one of those comparison pics from another thread and the only thing i've noticed is that the gen has a mini-bevel at the edge of the rehaut that none of the reps have, but i still can't tell what's wrong with VSF's
(borrowed from another thread)
the letters? the finish of the rest of the metal?
i've been staring at one of those comparison pics from another thread and the only thing i've noticed is that the gen has a mini-bevel at the edge of the rehaut that none of the reps have, but i still can't tell what's wrong with VSF's
(borrowed from another thread)
- 22/11/20
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- 11,238
- 113
what exactly it is about VSF's rehaut that isn't so good?
the letters? the finish of the rest of the metal?
i've been staring at one of those comparison pics from another thread and the only thing i've noticed is that the gen has a mini-bevel at the edge of the rehaut that none of the reps have, but i still can't tell what's wrong with VSF's
(borrowed from another thread)
The VSF I had (2 years ago) had a good engravement, (aligned and engraved), but the background of the rehaut on the gen is more polished than "mattet" (google translate spits out this word). CLEAN, since about 6months, has an improvement on this fact, they polish theyr rehaut background very nice. I dont know when the model was produced that was photographed in the comparison of @steve_theonewatches (thread you borrowed the picture).