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Clean Factory New 4130 Daytona Dial Pictures Leaks

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I got information about 116520 from my dealer.
It isn’t decided when 116520 production will be started.
But it will be after CNY, mid Feb at earliest.

Thank you very much for the information.

We still have some time before Chinese New Year, so we need to be patient in waiting.
 
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Dayton

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I got my Clean 116500 Panda 3days ago… first impressions:

- 5 lines of text very good but dial too white compared with my gen. The V4 Noob with the bold text had the closest dial colour to gen.
- The overall weight (by feel) is lighter than gen, have yet to weigh it. The Noob definitely feels better in hand.
- The case side profile is spot on. 95% compared with gen.
- The quality of bracelet screws are bad compared with even Noob. The first screw at clasp was slightly damaged during QC but didn’t get to see it until I received the watch. Furthermore, one of the bracelet screws was seized and I damaged it during removal. Overall or doesn’t seem like 904L steel.
- The winding crown ridges felt coarse and the screw in action seems short, as if the tube doesn’t have enough threads. Noob definitely feels better.
- Clasp closing action and feel better than Noob.
- Movement feels smooth during manual winding like Noob.

Overall, I feel it’s a good watch ootb but we are too picky because we had Noob before this. The dial, case profile and clasp much better than Noob but still flawed compared with gen.

The watch thickness is impressive, 12mm compared to Noob 12.5mm and Gen 12.2mm. I believe it’s partly due to thinner crystal gasket and partly due to better case profile.

Will post photos this weekend.
 

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I got my Clean 116500 Panda 3days ago… first impressions:

- 5 lines of text very good but dial too white compared with my gen. The V4 Noob with the bold text had the closest dial colour to gen.
- The overall weight (by feel) is lighter than gen, have yet to weigh it. The Noob definitely feels better in hand.
- The case side profile is spot on. 95% compared with gen.
- The quality of bracelet screws are bad compared with even Noob. The first screw at clasp was slightly damaged during QC but didn’t get to see it until I received the watch. Furthermore, one of the bracelet screws was seized and I damaged it during removal. Overall or doesn’t seem like 904L steel.
- The winding crown ridges felt coarse and the screw in action seems short, as if the tube doesn’t have enough threads. Noob definitely feels better.
- Clasp closing action and feel better than Noob.
- Movement feels smooth during manual winding like Noob.

Overall, I feel it’s a good watch ootb but we are too picky because we had Noob before this. The dial, case profile and clasp much better than Noob but still flawed compared with gen.

The watch thickness is impressive, 12mm compared to Noob 12.5mm and Gen 12.2mm. I believe it’s partly due to thinner crystal gasket and partly due to better case profile.

Will post photos this weekend.

Can you also post a photo with the gen bracelet on the cf case? I woul like to see the fit. And a closeup of the lugs size left and right and the crown lugs size? That would be awesome!
 

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Can you also post a photo with the gen bracelet on the cf case? I woul like to see the fit. And a closeup of the lugs size left and right and the crown lugs size? That would be awesome!

Yes please
 

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Dayton Apart from dial color, everything you've mentioned is up to tolerances. Crown thread, movement, clasp and so on can be hit or miss from any factory. Welcome to the rep world.
 
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Btw for the dial color,chinese on videos saying it is latest 2021 samples color dial and when they are new they are pure white but overtime due the sun or lights it starting to change hue a little and gets little more ivory color overtime,i dont think it will turn yellowish like arf but will lost that pure pure white color and will turn like every gen
So no issue with dial color
 

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Dayton Apart from dial color, everything you've mentioned is up to tolerances. Crown thread, movement, clasp and so on can be hit or miss from any factory. Welcome to the rep world.

Yes, it’s a good rep overall but somehow it doesn’t have the solid feel of the Noob. I’m really happy with the dial and case side profile which is a dead giveaway on the Noob.

I’ll definitely post photos of the Gen, CF, Noob V2.2 and Noob V4 under natural lighting soon.
 
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Btw for the dial color,chinese on videos saying it is latest 2021 samples color dial and when they are new they are pure white but overtime due the sun or lights it starting to change hue a little and gets little more ivory color overtime,i dont think it will turn yellowish like arf but will lost that pure pure white color and will turn like every gen
So no issue with dial color

I’m not sure about the whiteness of the latest gen 116500 but I’m comparing the dial colour to my 2019 gen which has very fine print on the 5lines of text and the colour is very close to V4 Noob. The V2.2 Noob dial is yellowish next to my gen. So the whiteness is like CF > Gen = V4 > V2.2 where CF is super white and V2.2 is warm white.
 
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I’m not sure about the whiteness of the latest gen 116500 but I’m comparing the dial colour to my 2019 gen which has very fine print on the 5lines of text and the colour is very close to V4 Noob. The V2.2 Noob dial is yellowish next to my gen. So the whiteness is like CF > Gen = V4 > V2.2 where CF is super white and V2.2 is warm white.

I understand but all new 2021 batch have that cold white color,i checked them on chrono 24
 

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I’m not sure about the whiteness of the latest gen 116500 but I’m comparing the dial colour to my 2019 gen which has very fine print on the 5lines of text and the colour is very close to V4 Noob. The V2.2 Noob dial is yellowish next to my gen. So the whiteness is like CF > Gen = V4 > V2.2 where CF is super white and V2.2 is warm white.

Thanks a lot for your very useful comparison, to be more accurate the equation should be:

CF > 2019 Gen = V4 > V2.2

The 2021 gens are indeed whiter, though only a real side by side would tell whether CF is really close

And congrats on your gen btw :)
 

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My gen is a 2021, i dont see any change in the white color comparing it to older gens.
 

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I got my Clean 116500 Panda 3days ago… first impressions:

- 5 lines of text very good but dial too white compared with my gen. The V4 Noob with the bold text had the closest dial colour to gen.
- The overall weight (by feel) is lighter than gen, have yet to weigh it. The Noob definitely feels better in hand.
- The case side profile is spot on. 95% compared with gen.
- The quality of bracelet screws are bad compared with even Noob. The first screw at clasp was slightly damaged during QC but didn’t get to see it until I received the watch. Furthermore, one of the bracelet screws was seized and I damaged it during removal. Overall or doesn’t seem like 904L steel.
- The winding crown ridges felt coarse and the screw in action seems short, as if the tube doesn’t have enough threads. Noob definitely feels better.
- Clasp closing action and feel better than Noob.
- Movement feels smooth during manual winding like Noob.

Overall, I feel it’s a good watch ootb but we are too picky because we had Noob before this. The dial, case profile and clasp much better than Noob but still flawed compared with gen.

The watch thickness is impressive, 12mm compared to Noob 12.5mm and Gen 12.2mm. I believe it’s partly due to thinner crystal gasket and partly due to better case profile.

Will post photos this weekend.

This is the best review we got! As crown and tube do you suggest Noob, right? What about pushers?
Thank you!
 

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Robi01 Yes! That’s exactly the “whiteness” on the CF dial! One thing I want to add is that the CF bezel is really good. Top notch!
 
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Thanks a lot for your very useful comparison, to be more accurate the equation should be:

CF > 2019 Gen = V4 > V2.2

The 2021 gens are indeed whiter, though only a real side by side would tell whether CF is really close

And congrats on your gen btw :)

Correct and thank you.
 

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This is the best review we got! As crown and tube do you suggest Noob, right? What about pushers?
Thank you!

I tried my best to describe what I observed without photos to illustrate. I would suggest gen crown and tube if possible. As for the pushers, I can’t really comment but someone on this forum did say that they are better than on Noob. I don’t see any difference.
 
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