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CLEAN Factory 124060 No Date Submariner New Release

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Guys….please stop being the usual Vsf fan boys and telling things that you don’t even know…I have the same watches and also had the gen for a while. Look at the case shape, the thickness of the Vsf one is ridiculous and completely wrong. Also the case back is thick. And look at the crown guards……cmon.
Oh and look at the Rehaut of vsf…it’s weird and the engraving method is completely different from original. The bracalet of the CF feels better, especially the clasp, and finally, the crystal gasket is the right eight in cf.
Hope that now it is clear who is the winner (by a lot).


 
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Guys….please stop being the usual Vsf fan boys and telling things that you don’t even know…I have the same watches and also had the gen for a while. Look at the case shape, the thickness of the Vsf one is ridiculous and completely wrong. Also the case back is thick. And look at the crown guards……cmon.
Oh and look at the Rehaut of vsf…it’s weird and the engraving method is completely different from original. The bracalet of the CF feels better, especially the clasp, and finally, the crystal gasket is the right eight in cf.
Hope that now it is clear who is the winner (by a lot).


do you have cg shape comparation also?
 

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i was going to pull the trigger on a vsf but i was told by the dealer that the vs3235 movement is not recommended. i guess i have to wait for an update soon. might opt for a tudor rep thats on the nwbig list.
 

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Yes have them. Look with your eyes (for everyone who still really think that vsf has something better than clean) … cg on clean are perfect, Vsf are incorrect next to gen one.

 

Popoe

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Yes have them. Look with your eyes (for everyone who still really think that vsf has something better than clean) … cg on clean are perfect, Vsf are incorrect next to gen one.

Photo 1 : CF
Photo 2: GEN
Photo 3: VSF
 

Popoe

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Guys….please stop being the usual Vsf fan boys and telling things that you don’t even know…I have the same watches and also had the gen for a while. Look at the case shape, the thickness of the Vsf one is ridiculous and completely wrong. Also the case back is thick. And look at the crown guards……cmon.
Oh and look at the Rehaut of vsf…it’s weird and the engraving method is completely different from original. The bracalet of the CF feels better, especially the clasp, and finally, the crystal gasket is the right eight in cf.
Hope that now it is clear who is the winner (by a lot).


And obviously here the one on the bottom is clean, look at the thickness. CF 124060 will still be the winner even when vs will update their movement if they leave their watches like this .
 

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think CF are using real 3230 clone movements, my understanding is that like their 3235 they are kind of hybrid movements and they dont have 72h of power reserve
I believe that is correct.
 
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Yes have them. Look with your eyes (for everyone who still really think that vsf has something better than clean) … cg on clean are perfect, Vsf are incorrect next to gen one.
Yes have them. Look with your eyes (for everyone who still really think that vsf has something better than clean) … cg on clean are perfect, Vsf are incorrect next to gen one.

mate I totally agree about CF sub quality , but no for the cg shape. that cg are near to a Gmt 116710 shape, GEN 6 digit sub has different shape about cg, more squared. and vsf / zf are more gen like in that. @shotgun what do you think about?

as per tradition ... unfortunately, for the best sub , you have to mix more factory, as per tradition... :):):)
 
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Donvitocorleone

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in any case.. sometime flaws are made by the pics...
here we can find a very comparation for all the best sub factories...

https://forum.replica-watch.info/threads/submariner-116610lv,comprehensive-comparison-of-gen-vs-clean-zf-and-king.10937714/


copy and paste


for lv its change just dial and insert respect to the ln..
 
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Popoe

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mate I totally agree about CF sub quality , but no for the cg shape. that cg are near to a Gmt 116710 shape, GEN 6 digit sub has different shape about cg, more squared. and vsf / zf are more gen like in that. @shotgun what do you think about?

as per tradition ... unfortunately, for the best sub , you have to mix more factory, as per tradition... :):):)

Hi mate, I unfortunately have to disagree on that since from what I saw with my eyes (you can check the photos I posted of Cgs), the Vsf 41mm still has the old 40 mm squared shape, which was correct for that model and clean wasn’t. But I noted that the new 41mm has less prominent cgs compared to the 40mm, so the clean actually has more similar shape of the genuine.
Look, I found another gen photo:
Photo 1 gen, 2 Clean, 3 VSF

 

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Hi mate, I unfortunately have to disagree on that since from what I saw with my eyes (you can check the photos I posted of Cgs), the Vsf 41mm still has the old 40 mm squared shape, which was correct for that model and clean wasn’t. But I noted that the new 41mm has less prominent cgs compared to the 40mm, so the clean actually has more similar shape of the genuine.
Look, I found another gen photo:
Photo 1 gen, 2 Clean, 3 VSF

Sorry I messed the order, photo 1 CF, photo 2 VSF, Photo 3 GEN
 

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Hi was it plug and play? did you have to customize anything to make the gen fit into the CF base?
It was a direct install but the gen crystal gasket was extremely tight. Much tighter than the rep.
 

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I guess the thickness of the bezel numbers and shine of the hands bugging me a little cf compared to gen lately
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