I don’t see Clean lowering prices. The only time they have ever done that was when they were busted by Puretime for their 904 bullshit, and needed to shift their ZZF Subs as they rebranded to Clean. Furthermore, no factory has done more to raise the prices of reps than Clean IMO.Lots of competition out right now for the 126500, imho, since VSF and BTF offers lower price than Clean, as well as ZF, it's honestly now a matter of value based proposition. Let's see what Clean will do next - they either have to improve or reduce price because from what I can see at least for the 126500 steel models, they are no longer the most obvious choice.
However for the PM and OF models, they're still my No. 1 choice.
Actually most recently they lowered the price of their 116x series Daytonas for the incoming 126500 Daytonas.I don’t see Clean lowering prices. The only time they have ever done that was when they were busted by Puretime for their 904 bullshit, and needed to shift their ZZF Subs as they rebranded to Clean. Furthermore, no factory has done more to raise the prices of reps than Clean IMO.
yep, considering factories source their crowns from the same manufacturer i'm not surprised. i highly doubt that one factory is able to manufacture all the parts but actually specialize in certain ones.that is barely noticeable
ARF makes crystals?yep, considering factories source their crowns from the same manufacturer i'm not surprised. i highly doubt that one factory is able to manufacture all the parts but actually specialize in certain ones.
ie. ARF for bracelets and crystals, Clean for ceramic inserts and dials.
yes, but hit and miss. they screwed up the sd43 with overmag cyclops but their GMT ones are better than Clean.ARF makes crystals?
Sorry, friend. It was VS that had the wrong cyclops mag on their early Sd43 —they’ve since updated their crystal.yes, but hit and miss. they screwed up the sd43 with overmag cyclops but their GMT ones are better than Clean.
You need to go back in time a bit - 2018, but the earlier ARF SD43 did have a bit too much magnification on the cyclops - I don’t recall when they fixed it. Nothing like XF/ VSF though - that’s really too much. I don’t think anyone knows who supplied what at that time as there were fewer factories and less ‘mix and match’ chatter in the forum.Sorry, friend. It was VS that had the wrong cyclops mag on their early Sd43 —they’ve since updated their crystal.
For the record, there is no ARF bracelet (or crystal) factory. We call it ARF brackets because they supplied the best Oyster rep bracelets to ARF before shut down from the raids..
Excellent detailed review, thank you!
Clean has updated the crystal on the 1265xx Daytona and there is no obvious improvement after swapping to the Deep crystal.Any must-do mods for the Clean Panda? I have a Deep Crystal on it that's it.