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Clean 126500 Daytona review

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After 26 days I finally received my black 126500.
Great watch out of the box.I love it. Maybe best watch I ever got.
The watch wears bigger then my BTF 116500. I love the bezel.
Winding feels very good, No Rotor noise.
Regarding the crystal, it is not bad but compared with the 116500 BTF
it doesn‘t look so good. Showed my wife both watches and ask here which is better.
She picked my old BTF because of the crystal. I may get the white one too.

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I had been thinking about a Clean 116 4130 as many people think they are better looking and potentially a more reliable movement but this is causing me to think about a 4131 Clean 126.

I don't have a rep (or gen) Daytona, but I do have a gen D-blue deepsea. I really want a high quality rep Daytona which has the same sort of feel good factor as the gen. I have that with my amazing ZF IWC Big Pilot (and I have a gen IWC to compare with).

This looks like it has gel-like feel-good factor.

I don't whether to wait for the 126/4131 to improve or take the plunge.
 

MYHABIT89

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I simply prefer the the 116500

it is a completely different watch.. more bigger and less comfortable. Yes the dial is very nice but I prefer the old case style
I enjoy both.new and old.you have a new thing to appreciated the old thing and opposite.just like peoples love steel daytona over ceramic!
 

MYHABIT89

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After 26 days I finally received my black 126500.
Great watch out of the box.I love it. Maybe best watch I ever got.
The watch wears bigger then my BTF 116500. I love the bezel.
Winding feels very good, No Rotor noise.
Regarding the crystal, it is not bad but compared with the 116500 BTF
it doesn‘t look so good. Showed my wife both watches and ask here which is better.
She picked my old BTF because of the crystal. I may get the white one too.

K6tB7o.jpeg

K6tlzJ.jpeg
The crystal is a major updated from Clean.pretty clear no haze effects
 
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Just got brutally robbed in bright daylight, just 200 meters from my house in Amsterdam.

One: that was a nasty experience, blood all over.
Two: lucky it was a fake
Three: please watch out with your replica’s, robbers think they’re genuine.


 

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Just got brutally robbed in bright daylight, just 200 meters from my house in Amsterdam.

One: that was a nasty experience, blood all over.
Two: lucky it was a fake
Three: please watch out with your replica’s, robbers think they’re genuine.


Good lord brother. Hopefully you are ok and at least got a few good licks in. Stay safe out there.
 
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aHero

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Just got brutally robbed in bright daylight, just 200 meters from my house in Amsterdam.

One: that was a nasty experience, blood all over.
Two: lucky it was a fake
Three: please watch out with your replica’s, robbers think they’re genuine.


Holy sh!t, sounds like you’re otherwise okay. Fvck those guys
 

maitre yoda

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Just got brutally robbed in bright daylight, just 200 meters from my house in Amsterdam.

One: that was a nasty experience, blood all over.
Two: lucky it was a fake
Three: please watch out with your replica’s, robbers think they’re genuine.


Wholeheartedly with you.
Unfortunately, we experienced this some time ago and it can be traumatic.
It's just material, but it still hurts.
Take good care of yourself.
 
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Just got brutally robbed in bright daylight, just 200 meters from my house in Amsterdam.

One: that was a nasty experience, blood all over.
Two: lucky it was a fake
Three: please watch out with your replica’s, robbers think they’re genuine.


No shit where in amsterdam? I live their myself aswel. I insured my gen pieces for this type of stuff but still I hope those guys look into the wrong end of a pistol :)
 
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m5smg2

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After 26 days I finally received my black 126500.
Great watch out of the box.I love it. Maybe best watch I ever got.
The watch wears bigger then my BTF 116500. I love the bezel.
Winding feels very good, No Rotor noise.
Regarding the crystal, it is not bad but compared with the 116500 BTF
it doesn‘t look so good. Showed my wife both watches and ask here which is better.
She picked my old BTF because of the crystal. I may get the white one too.

K6tB7o.jpeg

K6tlzJ.jpeg
Congrats finally. Looking good, and will pair nicely with your 16520.

I’m curious if the stock BTF crystal has underside AR?
 
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m5smg2

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Just got brutally robbed in bright daylight, just 200 meters from my house in Amsterdam.

One: that was a nasty experience, blood all over.
Two: lucky it was a fake
Three: please watch out with your replica’s, robbers think they’re genuine.


Sorry to read. Glad you’re ok overall, considering. Gen or not, it can be replaced. We can’t..
 
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Clean has clearly upgraded their crystal on the 12 series. It is good enough that it doesn’t need to be replaced. This is particularly true on the black dial. But it’s still a long way from a gen crystal.

I look at the issue that way: this watch is like a great meal and the crystal is like the wine that you’d pick to go with it.

The stock CF crystal is a wine that wouldn’t ruin the meal.

The deep crystal is a wine that is better than the stock CF crystal but that, for some, might not be appropriate to pair with that meal (kind of like a good Chablis with spicy meat).

The gen crystal is a great wine that compliments perfectly that meal and brings out all its flavors.

Some palates don’t really care about wine and do not find the premium to pay for a great wine to be worth it. Similarly, some eyes won’t find it to be worthwhile to upgrade to the gen crystal.

Nikz has recently replaced the crystal on my black dial 126500 with a gen one. When we were discussing the matter he told me that in his opinion the stock CF crystal was acceptable on the black dial and that the difference would be more noticeable on the white one.

However, he was surprised by how much difference it made after he replaced it. He said that “it transformed the face of the watch”.
 
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Clean has clearly upgraded their crystal on the 12 series. It is good enough that it doesn’t need to be replaced. This is particularly true on the black dial. But it’s still a long way from a gen crystal.

I look at the issue that way: this watch is like a great meal and the crystal is like the wine that you’d pick to go with it.

The stock CF crystal is a wine that wouldn’t ruin the meal.

The deep crystal is a wine that is better than the stock CF crystal but that, for some, might not be appropriate to pair with that meal (kind of like a good Chablis with spicy meat).

The gen crystal is a great wine that compliments perfectly that meal and brings out all its flavors.

Some palates don’t really care about wine and do not find the premium to pay for a great wine to be worth it. Similarly, some eyes won’t find it to be worthwhile to upgrade to the gen crystal.

Nikz has recently replaced the crystal on my black dial 126500 with a gen one. When we were discussing the matter he told me that in his opinion the stock CF crystal was acceptable on the black dial and that the difference would be more noticeable on the white one.

However, he was surprised by how much difference it made after he replaced it. He said that “it transformed the face of the watch”.
...the problem is that the meal is a McDonald's sandwich...a canned beer pairs perfectly :D
 

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Congrats finally. Looking good, and will pair nicely with your 16520.

I’m curious if the stock BTF crystal has underside AR?
Yes, BTF has 1 layer of AR under the crystal. This is why I see such a big difference.
This is my first Clean, I used to buy BTF. After all that reading I guess Clean did an
upgrade to the crystal in this release, compare to the old 116500. The old must then be
really terrible.
I mean you can live with it but when you are used to AR crystals, you want to upgrade.

I remember 10 years ago, my AP days. I was selling double AR crystals and it was a hot item.
 

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Yes, BTF has 1 layer of AR under the crystal. This is why I see such a big difference.
This is my first Clean, I used to buy BTF. After all that reading I guess Clean did an
upgrade to the crystal in this release, compare to the old 116500. The old must then be
really terrible.
I mean you can live with it but when you are used to AR crystals, you want to upgrade.

I remember 10 years ago, my AP days. I was selling double AR crystals and it was a hot item.
Agreed. Once you go Deep you can't go back.

Clean stock 116520 and BTF stock 116519 - both are not as good as deep

 

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This is deep in full sunlight. No funny hues or double reflections. Pure beauty and one of the reasons that I still love my Panda