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Calatrava 5226G

zinduna

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I held the gen 5227r again today at the AD, the difference in weight is actually quite pronounced when compared to my rep.

The rep 5227r zf is 60g with my CF strap while the gen is 78g with strarp. 18g might not be much, but with such a light watch it is 30% heavier on the gen.

Curious if anyone has tried putting lead tape inside the watch to make it heavier? is there any room to do that? I have put lead tapes on golf clubs before and they work well, 1 inch of lead tape is about 2grams of added weight.

I don't see lining the case with lead tape. There's no room. What might work would be replacing the retainer ring with a custom made lead piece. That would give you approximately 40% weight gain. So if the stock retainer ring were 10 grams, a lead replacement would be 14.2 g. Is it worth it? Up to you.
 
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I don't see lining the case with lead tape. There's no room. What might work would be replacing the retainer ring with a custom made lead piece. That would give you approximately 40% weight gain. So if the stock retainer ring were 10 grams, a lead replacement would be 14.2 g. Is it worth it? Up to you.
You are right. 4g weight gain will be hardly noticeable though.
One way to do it is to tape the external case back lol
 

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Is it even possible to get a WG CNC case made? I have seen that done for the Nautilus and a few others but never for the 5226g. Where would you even start if you wanted it done?
 

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Is it even possible to get a WG CNC case made? I have seen that done for the Nautilus and a few others but never for the 5226g. Where would you even start if you wanted it done?
A CNC case is possible but would be a lot of work. It would be better to just white gold plate the rep watch. Here's how I did it.

First of all, to disassemble the watch, it's a top-loader, so you have to remove the top bezel and crystal. Thankfully, there is a groove in the bezel, which should be at either six or twelve o'clock.

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Use tape or plastic to protect the surface, then gently pry it off with a case-back tool.

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Once the top crystal is removed, remove the hands and the dial to expose the movement ring underneath. Four long screws hold the movement to the mid-case and the bottom case (lugs and case back). Loosen these screws and tip the watch over while supporting it with a watch cushion. Take the bottom case off. Gently remove the crown and stem by pushing on the stem release button, and the mid-case will come off, leaving the movement in the movement ring and the mid-case free.

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All told the case has three parts: the bezel and crystal, the mid-case, and the bottom case. Sorry, I forgot to take pictures of the individual pieces.

Now you're good to go for plating, and it also exposes the movement regulator for fine-tuning and rotor silencing. I was pleased to be able to dial the Miyota in pretty well.

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When reassembling the watch, align the notch under the crown at the 3 o'clock position. I got this wrong the first time and had to reverse my progress to fix it.

Here's how mine turned out.

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EI449

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Excellent choice, EI. I wore the gen recently. You likely know it comes with two straps, including the beige suede and a saffiano-type strap that looks VERY close to yours. The pattern picks up the face look well. The gen does not have that VERY COOL clasp of yours. I wonder about comfort. I spend several hours a day at the computer and my arms rest on the desk. The feel of any given buckle / clasp of the watch I am wearing is most noticeable while resting on the desk.

Can you describe wearing comfort for this clasp. One thing is fore sure, PP needs you on staff! Great look!

Sorry for the delayed response — my 5226g actually stopped working soon after I made this post. However, I was able to send it back to Steve @ TheOneWatches in China and recently received it back. Thankfully, it seems to be working great now!

I also work at a computer all day with my wrists resting on my desk. I don’t experience any discomfort and I’m not afraid of the clasp scratching. I do use a desk mat though.

The only times I take the watch off is after washing my hands since my hands and wrist can sometimes feel damp and I don’t like that feeling with a watch on.

I actually love this watch and strap so much, I ordered another one that was white gold plated from flan_dad. It looks amazing plated. Unfortunately that one had some issues with its rate, amplitude, and beat error, but it’s currently being serviced and covered by them.
 

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Sorry for the delayed response — my 5226g actually stopped working soon after I made this post. However, I was able to send it back to Steve @ TheOneWatches in China and recently received it back. Thankfully, it seems to be working great now!

I also work at a computer all day with my wrists resting on my desk. I don’t experience any discomfort and I’m not afraid of the clasp scratching. I do use a desk mat though.

The only times I take the watch off is after washing my hands since my hands and wrist can sometimes feel damp and I don’t like that feeling with a watch on.

I actually love this watch and strap so much, I ordered another one that was white gold plated from flan_dad. It looks amazing plated. Unfortunately that one had some issues with its rate, amplitude, and beat error, but it’s currently being serviced and covered by them.
I forgot to mention that I’ll be getting a clasp white gold plated so it can match the watch I received from flan_dad because the difference is pretty noticeable.
 

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Alas, I also have a recent PP rep that will need to get sent back to the RD. How long was the round trip repair time with Steve?

I have been thinking about ordering the 5226G from Steve very soon.
 

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Alas, I also have a recent PP rep that will need to get sent back to the RD. How long was the round trip repair time with Steve?

I have been thinking about ordering the 5226G from Steve very soon.
  • 8/15 - Shipped via USPS to china
  • 8/25 - Says delivered in China
  • 8/28 - Delivered from shipping partner to Steve
  • 9/10 - Received QC e-mail of repair
  • 9/11 - Approved QC
  • 9/14 - Received tracking
  • 9/25 - Delivered
So 41 days total.
 
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  • 8/15 - Shipped via USPS to china
  • 8/25 - Says delivered in China
  • 8/28 - Delivered from shipping partner to Steve
  • 9/10 - Received QC e-mail of repair
  • 9/11 - Approved QC
  • 9/14 - Received tracking
  • 9/25 - Delivered
So 41 days total.

My PPF Patek 6007G clone has the same Miyota movement with exact problem you've encountered. Sent back to China today and hope all will be well with the repair. Do I dare order the 5226G after seeing that my problem is not a one off?

Yep, probably. I'm smitten with the 5226G. Having worn the gen, there's no going back I suppose. . .

Do you know if they just swapped your movement rather than repaired it?
 

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My PPF Patek 6007G clone has the same Miyota movement with exact problem you've encountered. Sent back to China today and hope all will be well with the repair. Do I dare order the 5226G after seeing that my problem is not a one off?

Yep, probably. I'm smitten with the 5226G. Having worn the gen, there's no going back I suppose. . .

Do you know if they just swapped your movement rather than repaired it?
Steve mentioned replacing the movement, so I assume that’s what they did.
 

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Hello guys ,
So after quite some back and forth with my TD ( he was saying he RL by himself some watches before even showing them to me for QC) , I did receive my 5226G PPF a couple of weeks ago .

I am really happy with the quality of this watch ( first rep I ever own)
I love the design and the simplicity of the watch . I feel the craftsmanship is good enough ( not Patek level I guess but I never hold a Patek in my life , so what do I know …)
The lack of white gold plating that was worrying me initially, was really unnecessary ; I mean , nobody even has a look at my watch

The only 2 negative points so far are :
- the power reserve is like 24 hours , I was expecting more
- the black leather strap the watch was coming with looks and feels quite bad , I mean my gen speedmaster has a quite better one and even my gen Hamilton does . I guess it is an easy fix : I will buy a high quality one at my usual straps shop . It just annoys me slightly to put 100€ in a strap I will match with a 400€ rep . But I guess i can’t save money on everything :)

On a side note , I love my new watch but I can’t fathom how someone would think it is worth paying 40k€ to get it . The gen seems grossly overpriced to me . 12k would be more reasonable in my humble opinion
 

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@deaded Haha no worries, its a great watch and mine gets so much wear time. I went for the lighter strap but I would recommend replacing it as it doesn't last. Well mine didn't anyway.
 
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On a side note , I love my new watch but I can’t fathom how someone would think it is worth paying 40k€ to get it . The gen seems grossly overpriced to me . 12k would be more reasonable in my humble opinion
Absolutely agree, thanks for the great post, this part especially is 100 % correct.

Beautiful watch, anyway too similar to a Zodiac Olympos Field or some Hamilton Khaki...perfect everyday watch yes, but without the PP brand...meh.

Of course i'm speaking of the crazy priced Gen, iun Rep form it is growing so much on me...it is similar to the Zodiac or the Hamilton ,but both does not have retails like these

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For 400 € + 100 € of upgraded strap you will have a stunningly close Rep compared to Gen, the only downsides are 24 hours of PR against maybe 35 - 45 hours of PR in the Gen



Yes, the Gen is White Gold...but costs 100 times more !
 
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Someone sent this to me as it was plated by someone else but the timing was way off. Wanted to show case assembly here in case anyone is wondering (but I saw @zinduna did an excellent job above as well). Not a huge fan of the case assembly but it is all good.

Movement needed a full service but it got back to running great.

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Someone sent this to me as it was plated by someone else but the timing was way off. Wanted to show case assembly here in case anyone is wondering (but I saw @zinduna did an excellent job above as well). Not a huge fan of the case assembly but it is all good.

Movement needed a full service but it got back to running great.

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This was me I think. Thank you!