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BP Seadweller.. Best SD available Period
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I wish I had taken a picture of the HE valve on my SSD before I epoxied it shut. As I recall it was 3 piece with the valve sitting on a recessed o-ring with a post and small round knob that went through the case with the knob on the inside of the case. A flat spring slipped underer the knob and held pressure on the valve. From what I remember, it was very close to the gen valve.
Yes R2D4, insert ...but i was wrong, ssd is modded with gen insert... this is the comment of the owner of these three rep on pics i posted:
"SSD is modded with gen insert/pearl and gen crown.
BP insert font is too bold and not crisp enough. I guess the way to go is BP with TC dial and hands and TC bracelet, and gen insert+gen crown as rep crown is bad on all versions..."
OT to R2D4> I was trying to PM you back on that other thread and it says I have too many PM's stored and won't let me send any. I've just deleted about 250 and it still says the same thing.
Anyway, the comment in question was about 8 posts back if you get this.
Anyway, the comment in question was about 8 posts back if you get this.
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You are a stud. I'll crack mine open soon and look.
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Hey fellas, I'm considering getting a BP Sea Dweller.
I was going to replace the crown, tube, bracelet, and hands. My question is though, should the dial also be replaced with the TC dial? I see some of you guys replacing the dial, while others just the hands.
I was going to replace the crown, tube, bracelet, and hands. My question is though, should the dial also be replaced with the TC dial? I see some of you guys replacing the dial, while others just the hands.
I have had this doubt also....i asked so much and realized that if your BP dial is correct it's not necessary replace with TC .. the differences are minimal..
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:lol: Gone are the days of being invited to the forums, rubbed down by scantily clad women, and comped VIP memberships... We're just average shmucks blending into the woodwork.
Time to finally break out the checkbook, K. :cheers:
I interrupt this thread with a lume shot
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
Stock BP crystal & height? Save me from rewinding.. What've you got done to yours so far? Asian ETA based?
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Daniel, you have opened the gates my man. Be prepared for the influx. The better question is what didn't he do. lol We didn't pop the crystal out.
1. Sanded the back of the insert to lower it just enough, then epoxied it very carefully.
2. Milled a beveled recess for the gen crown tube to sit flush with the case. That was a bitch!
3. Installed a gen (Generic) Click spring.
The rest I'll let Q, que you in on the rest.
The better question is what didn't he do. lol We didn't pop the crystal out.1. Sanded the back of the insert to lower it just enough, then epoxied it very carefully.
2. Milled a beveled recess for the gen crown tube to sit flush with the case. That was a bitch!
3. Installed a gen (Generic) Click spring.
The rest I'll let Q, que you in on the rest.
Ahhh... back to my favorite thread. Q5? R2, can we make this thread a sticky already.... considering how much thought, analysis, discussion and debate has been invested in this thread, doesn't this warrant a sticky. I personally think this thread is has a lot more info in it than the SSD thread that has a sticky. Just a suggest. . . . .
I am constantly amazed at how much thought people are putting into their builds. I have had this rep back from my WM for five days now and I have worn my BPSD for four of those days. Since I change watches more often than I change underwear, that's quite an accomplishment and says a lot about my feelings on this watch. I am not saying this rep is perfect, but aside of the 50 plus reps that have passed through my hands in the last year, this has to at least be in the top 5 OTB reps (I do consider it to still be OTB even if we add on a TC bracelet for $40.00, since it's such a cheap and easy upgrade that it doesn't make sense not to do it). With just a little DIY TLC, the BPSD is very close to the level of a TC Sub, for half the price.
Guys, before you start planning on modding this watch (TC bracelet excepted), my advice is to buy it and wear it for a while. I have a clark bezel insert, but I didn't bother to use it because the BP insert is better in every respect. Anyone that said that the print on the BP bezel is too bold is not looking at the same watch that I bought. There are enough comparative pictures in this thread to back this claim up and then some!
Is it worth it to upgrade to a TC dial??? If you're super anal maybe, but for just plain old anal WISers like me, the answer is a firm "NO". The BP dial is just fine. The DW has a nice bevel, print quality is good and the markers are fine (including the silver borders). The lume is also very strong. The only issue some might have is that the print on the dial isn't raised enough (this is 30x loupe type shit) and the lume is a tiny bit too grey in normal lighting (not noticeable at all unless you're looking at the watch side by side with a gen). The hands are are also a bit more grey looking than the gen and a just a touch more so than the hour markers. If it bothers you, it is easy enough to swap hands. Installing a TC dial requires shaving the case (or dial), which is a bit more involved. IMO, it's not worth the effort and I am fine with BP hands.
Now, I just want to correct a previous misconception that I was under and has been repeated often (including by me) throughout the thread: Many respected members hae said that the SD 16600 did not have an LEC on the crystal. This is FALSE. My WM (who worked for Rolex) corrected my misconception. All SD 16600 made in 2003 forward have an LEC on the crystal. The LEC is usually located at ninety degrees from the cyclops on a rolex crystal. There was no process in place early on to line up the LEC perfect on no-cyclops crystals, so on many Daytonas, Explorer 1's, ND subs and SD's made before 2005, the LEC could be found anywhere--not necessarily at 6. Later on, Rolex tightened their standards so that even on non-cyclops crystals, the LEC appears at 6. Here's a picture of a gen SD with LEC:
The fact that the BPSD does not have an LEC means little to me though because a real LEC should not be visible anyway. The only visible LEC's are the crappy LEC's on older reps. I'll skip the LEC and enjoy the amazing quality, gen spec crystal that comes with the BPSD!
I am constantly amazed at how much thought people are putting into their builds. I have had this rep back from my WM for five days now and I have worn my BPSD for four of those days. Since I change watches more often than I change underwear, that's quite an accomplishment and says a lot about my feelings on this watch. I am not saying this rep is perfect, but aside of the 50 plus reps that have passed through my hands in the last year, this has to at least be in the top 5 OTB reps (I do consider it to still be OTB even if we add on a TC bracelet for $40.00, since it's such a cheap and easy upgrade that it doesn't make sense not to do it). With just a little DIY TLC, the BPSD is very close to the level of a TC Sub, for half the price.
Guys, before you start planning on modding this watch (TC bracelet excepted), my advice is to buy it and wear it for a while. I have a clark bezel insert, but I didn't bother to use it because the BP insert is better in every respect. Anyone that said that the print on the BP bezel is too bold is not looking at the same watch that I bought. There are enough comparative pictures in this thread to back this claim up and then some!
Is it worth it to upgrade to a TC dial??? If you're super anal maybe, but for just plain old anal WISers like me, the answer is a firm "NO". The BP dial is just fine. The DW has a nice bevel, print quality is good and the markers are fine (including the silver borders). The lume is also very strong. The only issue some might have is that the print on the dial isn't raised enough (this is 30x loupe type shit) and the lume is a tiny bit too grey in normal lighting (not noticeable at all unless you're looking at the watch side by side with a gen). The hands are are also a bit more grey looking than the gen and a just a touch more so than the hour markers. If it bothers you, it is easy enough to swap hands. Installing a TC dial requires shaving the case (or dial), which is a bit more involved. IMO, it's not worth the effort and I am fine with BP hands.
Now, I just want to correct a previous misconception that I was under and has been repeated often (including by me) throughout the thread: Many respected members hae said that the SD 16600 did not have an LEC on the crystal. This is FALSE. My WM (who worked for Rolex) corrected my misconception. All SD 16600 made in 2003 forward have an LEC on the crystal. The LEC is usually located at ninety degrees from the cyclops on a rolex crystal. There was no process in place early on to line up the LEC perfect on no-cyclops crystals, so on many Daytonas, Explorer 1's, ND subs and SD's made before 2005, the LEC could be found anywhere--not necessarily at 6. Later on, Rolex tightened their standards so that even on non-cyclops crystals, the LEC appears at 6. Here's a picture of a gen SD with LEC:
The fact that the BPSD does not have an LEC means little to me though because a real LEC should not be visible anyway. The only visible LEC's are the crappy LEC's on older reps. I'll skip the LEC and enjoy the amazing quality, gen spec crystal that comes with the BPSD!
very useful post, Set .. i will make a picture with your words to hang in the living room!
:"only issue some might have is that the print on the dial isn't raised enough"
this is my major regret .. i did not understand, however, if TC dial is better for this problem ) ...
"Many respected members hae said that the SD 16600 did not have an LEC on the crystal. This is FALSE"
I was to say that SD has Lec after 2003 .. but members with more experience (nice guys always kind with me) repeated that SD has never had lec and i not replied ... but now that you have spoken it, i can say without fear that also" MY COLLEAGUE HAS GEN SD WITH LEC !!"
thanks Set