BP Seadweller.. Best SD available Period

[set2374]

Isn't it currently the only SD on the market?:beatahorse:

Yes. Noob made an SD a few years ago that was the gold standard, but those have been out of production for a while. Frankly, this BP version is a lot better than the old Noob version. I enjoyed my SD for about an hour in august and its been with my watchmaker ever since.
I am not going crazy on the cosmetic stuff, but am focused on upgrading the movement. The watchmaker i am using on this project used to work for rolex in their NYC service center and has seen plenty of gen SD's on his bench. He was literally blown away with the quality of this case, crystal and the TC bracelet. It had the right feel to him. The dial and hands are also pretty decent out of the box, but he's being a good gent and is is touching up the print on the dial so it stands out a bit more and her is refinishing the bp hands, which are a bit rough. I am skipping a relume, since the rep superlume is pretty good and looks white enough in DL for my eyes.

On the other hand, the movement, movement holder, tabs and stem on my clone version are quite shitty though, and those all needed to be replaced.

I don't think any of the mods I am doing would be particularly noticeable, but my goal is to have a good watch when this is said and done. Cosmetics beyond a little touch of paint will have to wait. Oh, since I am replacing the shit movement with a SW200, i am having it serviced and am upgrading it to a correct H4 cp. This is cosmetic too, but it would crazy not to do it now under the circumstances.

I have been waiting almost 7 week so I hope he finishes soon!!


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[KBH]

set2374

I know, I've been wearing my original Noob SSD for over 3 years now. Other than the rehaut being slightly off, I still think it's the best SD that has been made. Never a problem with the crown and tube such as the others. Better sapphire crystal. Much better HE valve that actually works like the gen. And better bracelet. And an actual new factory fresh ETA movement came in it.

The only problem I've had is after 3 years the dial indices and hands started turning a nice vintage brown. I've since replaced the dial and hands with a TC set which is about as close to gen as you could get.

So, I'll be sticking with my old faithful at least until TC comes out with something better.

 

[set2374]

TC has no interest in making a Sea-Dweller, so you will have many years to enjoy your noob! I do disagree with you though. The crown guards, case shape, lugs, crystal, dial, hands and rehaut are much nice on the BP without any mods. The bezel is also much nicer and I can't rave enough about the insert and BP pearl. Out of the box, the BP is a much nicer watch....althouth the movement sucks. The bracelet is nothing special on either version, but that's was other TC bracelet is for!

 

[R2D4]

I had the noob, from a modding perspective and out of the box the noob ain't even close. I just put an aftermarket gen click spring in mine and I can't believe the difference. Trust me..it's the best out of the box and a joy to mod.

Edit to add: The old noob is the grand daddy. It's a fantastic watch!

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[darkstar2k77]

I'm also interested in the click spring mod but can't find any tutorial for the Bp. Anyone care to put up a short guide for the noobies?

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[benjji]

Set2374,

i have question for you and for anyone who wants to answer.


My doubt is about print on the dial :

printing on the dial (the white writings " rolex-oyster "etc. etc.) I believe that on genuine dial has major relief-highness - high ground (I have problems to translate this word in english, i hope you understand). print on BP dial it seems more flat, the height of letters is evident only with a particular light.

this is my only question that bothers me. I ask you if this is true?

is the highness of the letters signal of originality ?

maybe TC dial is better about this?
or is not problem.. maybe i'm wrong.

my watchmarker said me that Rolex used different factory wich worched his dials..( Bayeler-Singer) with different prints..



I keep a lot to learn about this. Thank you.

 

[R2D4]

I'm also interested in the click spring mod but can't find any tutorial for the Bp. Anyone care to put up a short guide for the noobies?

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It's really really simple. Tape the right 6 o clock lug so you don't scratch it. Work a pocket knife under it and pry it up. It will lift off. Carefully, and slowly take it off. You will see a long wire, this it's the click spring. Replace with a generic gen and put it back together. It's that easy.

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[KBH]

Well, the first batch of BP's (I assume they were BP's) had a HORRIBLE shaped crystal you could spot from 10 feet. Also, the case had a flat spot where the HE valve was and the valve was sunk too far into the case. Still is. Did I mention, it's also a fake valve from what I understand unlike the Noob. As far as the dial and hands, I'll still take the Noob even though I've replaced mine with even better TC. The fit and finish of the bracelet and endlink fit is also far superior on the Noob. In fact the fit and finish of the whole watch, including movement is probably better. How many times have I heard about the new SD with crown and tube problems! And, on the Noob, a gen insert and pearl snap in just like on a gen SD. Not sure about the BP?

The only thing that has actually impressed me is the rehaut compared to the old one.

What I'm hearing is that if you buy a BP, swap out the movement, buy a TC bracelet, change the click spring, change the crown and tube, you have an awesome watch.

And with gen insert and pearl and TC hands and dial it would truly be the best. That I'll agree with.

So I'll have to respectfully disagree with you on some of the points you made unless they have all been corrected on the latest model. Just my opinion, but I haven't seen enough improvement to make me want to switch.

 

[Turbo350z]

I don't even think you need to upgrade the insert on the BP version. The pearl Is very good.
Here is mine next to a gen 16610 insert.

I think they really nailed the finish on the case of this one as well. My father in law has the gen of this, I will see if I can snap a few pics next time I see him. But I can tell you with TC bracelet and hands this thing is damn near gen.

Notice the finish on the case in this pic. Very good.

And the gen

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[Timewellspent]

Anyone know a good td still carrying the bp for a decent price?


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[Turbo350z]

Anyone know a good td still carrying the bp for a decent price?


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Sead


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[KBH]

That is a fine looking watch. No doubt about it.

 

[Timewellspent]

Sead


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Thanks turbo


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[Turbo350z]

Thanks turbo


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No Prob. He was the cheapest when I was looking around


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[Luthier]

I don't even think you need to upgrade the insert on the BP version. The pearl Is very good.
Here is mine next to a gen 16610 insert.

I think they really nailed the finish on the case of this one as well. My father in law has the gen of this, I will see if I can snap a few pics next time I see him. But I can tell you with TC bracelet and hands this thing is damn near gen.

Notice the finish on the case in this pic. Very good.

And the gen

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...except triangle and marker @9 are misaligned, and DW font too.

 

[Turbo350z]

...except triangle and marker @9 are misaligned, and DW font too.

It's ok, I'll take that. I paid under 400 for the watch+ parts. Gen is 5k+.

Also it's the pic angle that makes the 9 marker look off. On my wrist right now and looks good to me!!


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[Q5?]

I've had both, SSD and BPSD.

I was lucky to have R2, Katt, PBdad, JackJo and Finedd take the SSD to the highest level. But there was one thing that always bothered me. The etched crystal (LEC) There is no way to fix that on the SSD. :nah:

The BPSD, with a few mods can get so close.

 

[KBH]

I remember when I first got mine. I did a little work on the CG's and replaced the insert with gen. I happened to be wearing it up at the PBG Mall and saw one in the window of Tourneau. I honestly stood there for 15 minutes trying to find fault with it and couldn't. Even the rehaut looked perfect from 5 feet away.

For the non believers in the quality of the original SSD, I'd suggest you look over this old post, even if it is on RG. It's a great review for those interested in the history of the SD reps:

http://www.repgeek.com/showthread.php?t=6534

And, as for the LEC, it never really bothered me but someone came up with a generic crystal to fit the SSD case. I thought I bookmarked it but can no longer find it. My eyes are good enough to read a newspaper without glasses but I still can't see the LEC without either reading glasses or a loupe. Joys of getting old, I guess.

 

[benjji]

I would love this super ssd BP with LEC at 6 o'clock. I saw this from TD to another site. it has lec at 6. but I do not know if it is the super SD from BP that we treat in this topic

http://www.kuvarsit.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=30101

 

[Q5?]

That is not the BPSD.