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BP Seadweller.. Best SD available Period

Thrasher

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Adrian still has my watch we put a genuine Bezel on it along with a GEN hands, T<25 Dial, DW, Flat 4 insert, crystal, drilled lugs, crown and a serviced Yuki from @Tickleshoes , Poor Adrian @ado213 has been going crazy with all the different parts I sent him plus he has to completely remachine the case to make everything fit. The guy is a genius in my book. @alohaliftoff
 

redsocks

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For those of you that have replaced the click spring, which one did you go with? Mine didn't come with one, and the entire bezel was glued into place, but i added a WSO click spring, and it's either not long enough, or the bezel feel on this is extremely loose.

@Thrasher If I'm not mistaken, you have Adrians click spring, how does the turning feel compared to your older TC sub? I just got a V6 sub, and to be honest, it's not that much more different from the V7X that I had before. I'm just trying to tighten the bezel feel a little bit. Thanks!

My stock BPSD came with double sided tape on the underside of the insert, I removed it and cleaned it up, the feel of the bezel click isn't quite gen like, so I took a pair of plier and made some adjustments to the end, you can try it, some like it tight while some like it slightly easier to turn.


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AL0HA

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Adrian still has my watch we put a genuine Bezel on it along with a GEN hands, T<25 Dial, DW, Flat 4 insert, crystal, drilled lugs, crown and a serviced Yuki from @Tickleshoes , Poor Adrian @ado213 has been going crazy with all the different parts I sent him plus he has to completely remachine the case to make everything fit. The guy is a genius in my book. @alohaliftoff

I remember you were telling me about your build. Can't wait to see the final pictures. What bracelet will you be using? I have a TC on mine that might have been sanded too much, and I really can't stand the gaps in the sel fitment. Thinking about selling it, and starting fresh with an entirely new watch.

My stock BPSD came with double sided tape on the underside of the insert, I removed it and cleaned it up, the feel of the bezel click isn't quite gen like, so I took a pair of plier and made some adjustments to the end, you can try it, some like it tight while some like it slightly easier to turn.


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I'll try that with the pliers when I get home. Thanks for the inf!
 

Thrasher

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I remember you were telling me about your build. Can't wait to see the final pictures. What bracelet will you be using? I have a TC on mine that might have been sanded too much, and I really can't stand the gaps in the sel fitment. Thinking about selling it, and starting fresh with an entirely new watch.



I'll try that with the pliers when I get home. Thanks for the inf!

Its got a TC bracelet, I tried to get Zocker4711 to do the swiss machine but lost patience after 14 weeks and blew a fuse.
 

ado213

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For those of you that have replaced the click spring, which one did you go with? Mine didn't come with one, and the entire bezel was glued into place, but i added a WSO click spring, and it's either not long enough, or the bezel feel on this is extremely loose.

@Thrasher If I'm not mistaken, you have Adrians click spring, how does the turning feel compared to your older TC sub? I just got a V6 sub, and to be honest, it's not that much more different from the V7X that I had before. I'm just trying to tighten the bezel feel a little bit. Thanks!


The problem with both the TC, WSO and for that matter, the Clark is that they are all made for gen. For some unknown reason BP drill there click post hole in the case bigger. This means that if you fit one of the above clicks you will always have at minimum "backlash" in the click. In short the spring moves in the hole.

Secondly, the above are just not a big enough in section of spring to imply the force required to register the bezel accurately.

Thirdly, a gen bezel has the centre of the teeth cut perpendicular to the bezel diameter, the BP bezel has it teeth cut at around 25 degrees to the bezel diameter (sloping) hence the really long click on some models.

Fourthly, every BP SD has some amount of play between the bezel and running ring on the case, this varies dramatically.

Fithly, please remember, you are buying clicks that are meant for the 16610 sub, not an SD. The gen click on the SD is stiffer than the 16610. It was specifically designed to be stiffer, so it wasn't accidentally moved whilst diving.

So to get the perfect click, you need 0.9mm st/st Spring wire ( to fit the case post hole correctly) , it needs to strike the teeth at an angle of around 25 degrees, ( to match the bezel teeth angle) . It needs to be custom made ( to suite each individual bezel) and it should be stiffer than a 16610

Long post for such a simple item, but the devil is in the detail.

Hope this helps
 

ado213

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Oops, sorry guys, gave you the wrong st/st spring wire size. its NOT 0.9mm its 0.6mm
 

redsocks

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Been wearing the BPSD most of the time


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mrsub

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0,6mm or 0,5mm is correct for the hole as ado said. However I figured out that a 0,3mm spring will fit tight as well and it will sound better than the clonk clonk clonk sound of the 0,5mm.
 

Thrasher

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Told you he was a Genius. When was the last time you ever heard anyone give such a detailed and complex description for just a Tiny part????

Thank You Adrian @ado213

The problem with both the TC, WSO and for that matter, the Clark is that they are all made for gen. For some unknown reason BP drill there click post hole in the case bigger. This means that if you fit one of the above clicks you will always have at minimum "backlash" in the click. In short the spring moves in the hole.

Secondly, the above are just not a big enough in section of spring to imply the force required to register the bezel accurately.

Thirdly, a gen bezel has the centre of the teeth cut perpendicular to the bezel diameter, the BP bezel has it teeth cut at around 25 degrees to the bezel diameter (sloping) hence the really long click on some models.

Fourthly, every BP SD has some amount of play between the bezel and running ring on the case, this varies dramatically.

Fithly, please remember, you are buying clicks that are meant for the 16610 sub, not an SD. The gen click on the SD is stiffer than the 16610. It was specifically designed to be stiffer, so it wasn't accidentally moved whilst diving.

So to get the perfect click, you need 0.9mm st/st Spring wire ( to fit the case post hole correctly) , it needs to strike the teeth at an angle of around 25 degrees, ( to match the bezel teeth angle) . It needs to be custom made ( to suite each individual bezel) and it should be stiffer than a 16610

Long post for such a simple item, but the devil is in the detail.

Hope this helps
 

mrsinsyder

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Cross post as requested: gen SD. If any other pics would be of help, let me know.

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Turbo350z

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Adrian still has my watch we put a genuine Bezel on it along with a GEN hands, T<25 Dial, DW, Flat 4 insert, crystal, drilled lugs, crown and a serviced Yuki from @Tickleshoes , Poor Adrian @ado213 has been going crazy with all the different parts I sent him plus he has to completely remachine the case to make everything fit. The guy is a genius in my book. @alohaliftoff

Sounds just like mine ;)




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Ephry73

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Hey guys! I love my BPSD just have a curiosity about this watch! Being a diver watch anyone tested it "out of the box" underwater?

Otb mine tested to 9atm no issues. When I took it diving went to 70 feet seawater no issues whatsoever.


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redsocks

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BPSD is so good ootb that I haven't even changed the insert tho I've gotten it for a couple of months, rep insert is actually pretty accurate other than it being not as "glittery" as the gen's font


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Ephry73

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You got a good one!

After testing I lubed all of the gaskets and orings where needed and added a gen tube and crown. Just for good measure. I miss my old one and would not mind getting another one used to modify.


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redsocks

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After testing I lived all of the gaskets and orings where needed and added a gen tube and crown. Just for good measure. I miss my old one and would not mind getting another one used to modify.


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haha my case back wasn't even tightened fully when i received it, lucky i opened it because i wanted to grease the o ring and be sure. and i agree the BPSD is so good it makes me want to get another one just in case they stop producing it @Thrasher
 

Mr Smith

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After building five of these BPSD last one almost all gen, I decided I would see if I could lightly mod the piece and see how good I could get it to look
So far I reworked the case and crown guards that I'm not sure I'm done with?
Went through three BPSD dials to finally find one that didn't have crooked markers
Replaced the BP pearl with gen pearl. And fitted a TC bracelet to the case with BP clasp. Which I'm still not happy with the Sel fit, Still haven't put on the TC V3 hands yet. Work still in progress. It's been a challenge of mix match rep parts to get this far;) if anybody got any decent bracelet sel's, hit a brother up
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Stuessi

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Can any of you experts tell me which are the best ETA hands except TC? Id like to replace the stock hands asap. Thanks!

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