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ctlawyer

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Can anyone post a macro pic of the high-beat 21j movement in their Bpsd particularly the regulating area for a watch keeping good time? I hit the wrong lever and cannot get this thing keeping time anymore. No matter what I do it runs fast- really fast. Thanks
 

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Can anyone post a macro pic of the high-beat 21j movement in their Bpsd particularly the regulating area for a watch keeping good time? I hit the wrong lever and cannot get this thing keeping time anymore. No matter what I do it runs fast- really fast. Thanks

Oh no ! First off, hitting the wrong lever (the beat error adj) will not make the watch run really fast, it will make it run irregular (sometimes fast, sometimes slow). It sound like you might have damaged the hairspring or maybe just (hopefully) knocked it out of the regulator pins.

Secondly, as far as adjusting it, where one watch is adjusted, it is very unlikley that another watch will run well just by matching the arm location. you will need a timing machine to adjust the beat error, no other way around it.

Thirdly, those hi beat 21 jewels are, in my opinion, junk. Sorry.
If you did damage the hairspring, or any thing else, it is next to impossible to find parts for it.
They also seem very unreliable and are prone to problems.


Check the hairspring to see if its in the regulator pins, if it is, then i think at this point, you be better off replacing it with either a 1) Gen ETA or Sellita, or 2) a real 2836 asian clone.
 

bfufu2001

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Can anyone source me a set of TC hands? I'm in Hong Kong, and TC is is not able do business with anyone in HK............
 

ctlawyer

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Is a 2836 clone a direct lift and load or other mods required, i.e. crown, tube, etc Any suggestion on sourcing - do the TD's carry them?
 

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Y'all really stress me out. ;) The green hands are not that bad. Order the damn watch and enjoy it. ctlaw, have you tried having a modder time your watch? I wonder why TC won't ship to HK?

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I just ordered one, the hands were an issue for me at first on the qc pics, your comments on this thread convinced me to pull the trigger. I do plan on reluming them for fun eventually, seems easier since mine is 21j version.
 

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Don't forget the R2D4 Gen click spring mod! It is the absolute best mod on mine. (the Gen crown is a very close second though ;) )
 

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Don't forget the R2D4 Gen click spring mod! It is the absolute best mod on mine. (the Gen crown is a very close second though ;) )

I love mine with gen click spring! I have been saying it since these came out. This watch has quality of a TC sub. Mine has absolutely NO bezel play up/down side to side. Which is a huge pet Peve of mine.


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Is a 2836 clone a direct lift and load or other mods required, i.e. crown, tube, etc Any suggestion on sourcing - do the TD's carry them?



Its almost a direct swap.
You will need to install a DWO, or remove the DWO from the 21J datewheel and put it on the new movements datewheel.
The actuall datewheels of the movements are not interchangable.
Then you will need to resize the hourhand hole to make it a little smaller. This might be a nice time to install some clarks or TC hands?

You will need to use the new movements stem as the stems are not interchageable, but the threads are the same, so the crown will fit

Other than that is just plug and play
 

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Its almost a direct swap.
You will need to install a DWO, or remove the DWO from the 21J datewheel and put it on the new movements datewheel.
The actuall datewheels of the movements are not interchangable.
Then you will need to resize the hourhand hole to make it a little smaller. This might be a nice time to install some clarks or TC hands?

You will need to use the new movements stem as the stems are not interchageable, but the threads are the same, so the crown will fit

Other than that is just plug and play
Dave, I thought the hands of the new high beat 21j will swap with 2836?
 

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Dave, I thought the hands of the new high beat 21j will swap with 2836?


They will for the most part, but on the new hibeat the hour wheel pinion is a tiny bit bigger, which will make the hourhand slip on the 2836. Youlle need to reduce the hole on the hourhand to make it fit properly. A few people have swapped them straight over without modding them, then later some of those people reported the hourhand not staying put.

Then ive also heard reports of the clarks hour hand not fitting the new hibeat, because the hole is not big enough.
So there is indeed a difference. Its small, but it is there.
 

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They will for the most part, but on the new hibeat the hour wheel pinion is a tiny bit bigger, which will make the hourhand slip on the 2836. Youlle need to reduce the hole on the hourhand to make it fit properly. A few people have swapped them straight over without modding them, then later some of those people reported the hourhand not staying put.

Then ive also heard reports of the clarks hour hand not fitting the new hibeat, because the hole is not big enough.
So there is indeed a difference. Its small, but it is there.
Thanks for the info bud.!!!
 

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Question for all you BPSD experts:

I just swapped the guts from my SSD over to a used BP case that I picked up. What kind of movement ring comes with the BPSD. The only one I can get to work with an ETA movement is a plastic ring from an old watch. The SSD movement ring doesn't fit and I'm pretty sure the #3 ring from Raffles-time also wont work, although I don't want to take it apart and try it since everything running 100% right now. From seeing how tight the movement is, I'm kinda thinking that they must come with plastic spacers. Also, did they come with both Asian 21j and ETA clone movements. Seems like I mostly see them with that new hi-beat 21j movement.

Take a pair of calipers and measure the plastic movement ring you have? And PM me the measurements ? I may have a steel ring!


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well gents she's finally in the conus from her trip to europe. this is the bpsd sead posted a week or so ago only got one decent pic and she mounted to the tc bacelet after 15-20 min or so of filing down the side of one of the sel

DSCN1333_zpsc9df2371.jpg~original

swiss movment with decorated rotor.

anyone have a spare click spring lying around and possiblt an insert this one has a gnarly gap all the way around

that
 

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You can buy them both from Clark. His click springs are just like gen from what I've been hearing and his insert is 100% better than that one.