BP Factory Rolex 16710 GMT Full Review VS Gen

[KJ2020]

Hey mate lovely review I’m going to grab this BP Pepsi 16710, quick question... did you happen to know what the dial size is I have a Swiss eta 2836 CHS with noob dial that’s been running for about 6 years lol. I’m planning on putting it in the case with some mods.
just to clarify I’m confused with others info on here.
does it have gen style bezel construction and take gen crystal? Thanks buddy

Thanks bro.

Dial size 28.5mm
Max dial size case will accept 29.2mm
Crystal size 30.5mm gen 29.5mm
*You can use a gen spec crystal if you use 2 gaskets
Insert size 30.6mm/37.4mm gen ~37.65mm
*Aftermarket inserts come the BP size, a gen-spec insert needs sanding.

Bezel is octagonal wire and a sonofabitch to get off

I found a remarkably easier way to get the bezel back on though. Put the wire in the bezel and tape it in place with polishing tape. The stuff is extremely strong against lengthwise pulling so you can nearly bury the wire into the bezel groove. It's also very slippery on top so it pulls out easily. I pressed the bezel on by hand and then pulled the tape out. Peachy.

Gap is so tight you can't even get to the wire. I had to hammer a jeweler's screwdriver into the space.

Putting it back on this way beats the hell out of feeding the wire back in one eighth of its length at at a time. Cut each tape loop and slide it out.

 

[KJ2020]

KJ2020 So here is what my current search has revealed:
Nembo is getting me the 23 jewel BP16710 hopefully it's the DG3804. Excellent and Fast communication.
Ryan is getting me the A2836 BP 16710, I'm just waiting for my ID to clear at Coinbase. Excellent and Fast communication.
TSWatch you can order and they say they have it but then I get no payment info or price including shipping and bitcoin discount.
Sead says this watch is not available.

Nembo will come through for you bro he lists these all the time. This one just last week. Ignore the 16750 model number, this is the exact watch I reviewed except it has a DG3804 movement, which Nembo's always have. And free shipping!

https://www.repgeek.com/nembos-corn...vintage-pre-ceramic-rolex-gmt-16750-coke.html

 

[Thrasher]

Nembo will come through for you bro he lists these all the time. This one just last week. Ignore the 16750 model number, this is the exact watch I reviewed except it has a DG3804 movement, which Nembo's always have. And free shipping!

https://www.repgeek.com/nembos-corn...vintage-pre-ceramic-rolex-gmt-16750-coke.html

Now he says he cant get it.. Very Disappointing

 

[Thrasher]

Thanks bro.

Dial size 28.5mm
Max dial size case will accept 29.2mm
Crystal size 30.5mm gen 29.5mm
*You can use a gen spec crystal if you use 2 gaskets
Insert size 30.6mm/37.4mm gen ~37.65mm
*Aftermarket inserts come the BP size, a gen-spec insert needs sanding.

Bezel is octagonal wire and a sonofabitch to get off

I found a remarkably easier way to get the bezel back on though. Put the wire in the bezel and tape it in place with polishing tape. The stuff is extremely strong against lengthwise pulling so you can nearly bury the wire into the bezel groove. It's also very slippery on top so it pulls out easily. I pressed the bezel on by hand and then pulled the tape out. Peachy.

Gap is so tight you can't even get to the wire. I had to hammer a jeweler's screwdriver into the space.

Putting it back on this way beats the hell out of feeding the wire back in one eighth of its length at at a time. Cut each tape loop and slide it out.

This is truly brilliant as I have struggled with those wires before

 

[KJ2020]

Now he says he cant get it.. Very Disappointing

Wow I'm surprised, wonder if something's up with BP. He's listed at least 3 of these in the last couple months. It may be that he just can't get it "on request" IDK. I'll keep an eye out for you. I always have a tab open to his page and check it once or more daily. BTW a 16750 was the first 5 digit and it was a GMT Master I with a non-independent GMT hand. The first batches of them did not have white gold marker surrounds. These guys aren't the best with model numbers.

 

[Thrasher]

Wow I'm surprised, wonder if something's up with BP. He's listed at least 3 of these in the last couple months. It may be that he just can't get it "on request" IDK. I'll keep an eye out for you. I always have a tab open to his page and check it once or more daily. BTW a 16750 was the first 5 digit and it was a GMT Master I with a non-independent GMT hand. The first batches of them did not have white gold marker surrounds. These guys aren't the best with model numbers.

I have learned over the years to provide links and photos and worry that they can even open those links or photos so I make sure to be as clear and detailed as possible in my description. It's all about Patience, This is why I like Sead he really has great communication

 

[KJ2020]

I have learned over the years to provide links and photos and worry that they can even open those links or photos so I make sure to be as clear and detailed as possible in my description. It's all about Patience, This is why I like Sead he really has great communication

Maybe ask Nembo for a 16750 like the one in the link I posted, haha.

 

[mnkoshka]

KJ2020 thanks very much for the info buddy really appreciate it.
Damn my dial is 27.90 did you happen was the inner rehault dimension larger than 27.90? Maybe I missed that info if you mentioned earlier on.
Ive used cases like this before and machined the retaining wire shaped assembly on the case down to a normal gen case dimension to take gen gasket and crystal.... then I can use an aftermarket 16710 gen spec assembly which would also take a gen insert hopefully. Fingers crossed.

im also confused as to which one is available still lol, so the coke isn’t but the 16710 Pepsi on InTime’s website is ?

 

[KJ2020]

KJ2020 thanks very much for the info buddy really appreciate it.
Damn my dial is 27.90 did you happen was the inner rehault dimension larger than 27.90? Maybe I missed that info if you mentioned earlier on.
Ive used cases like this before and machined the retaining wire shaped assembly on the case down to a normal gen case dimension to take gen gasket and crystal.... then I can use an aftermarket 16710 gen spec assembly which would also take a gen insert hopefully. Fingers crossed.

im also confused as to which one is available still lol, so the coke isn’t but the 16710 Pepsi on InTime’s website is ?

Rehaut aperture is 27.4 on mine so 27.9 dial should be fine. Great that you can machine the case to fit a gen-spec bezel, that's a nice upgrade!

I am not up on what's currently available bro, I don't really worry much about insert color though. I probably have 30 spares, I need to quit, oh wait there's one I don't have lol.

 

[mnkoshka]

Rehaut aperture is 27.4 on mine so 27.9 dial should be fine. Great that you can machine the case to fit a gen-spec bezel, that's a nice upgrade!

I am not up on what's currently available bro, I don't really worry much about insert color though. I probably have 30 spares, I need to quit, oh wait there's one I don't have lol.

Hahahah yeah I hear ya mate I’m in deep with all these little projects. I’m not worried about the insert colour just want to make sure I get the same case you got I guess. Thanks again for the info If the machining is successful I’ll post it up in this thread

 

[mnkoshka]

KJ2020 here’s a pic of another case I machined down converting the spring wire bezel assembly into gen spec to suit gen assembly

 

[KJ2020]

That's beautiful work bro. Would be an awesome mod for a BP 16710.

 

[itgoes211]

mnkoshka : great work on the machining! Good idea to machine it to spec. I’m trying to machine down the height of a rehaut. I have a press and a drill. But I’m finding it hard to locate a drill bit for metal that is the right width (width of the crystal rim, the rim above the rehaut that i’d Like to lower. I’m CONUS. Any suggestions on where to source metal drill bits at specific mm increments?

id also like to remove some of the slope on the rehaut to make it closer to 90 degrees vertical. Without having to grind and sand the angled part, which would be tough to get as perfect as the correct size drill bit. So looking for another bit just a little smaller than the one above also. But if you know of any place to get metal bits, I could see if they have the correct sizes. Any thoughts or suggestions on other techniques?

 

[effewatch]

Anyone here can tell how good is the jubilee bracelet made by BP?

 

[Neon]

Does anyone have a link for all the differences between a 1675 and a 16710? When I Google it, I mostly just see that the movement changed. Also wouldn’t mind a good list of changes to the 16710 over time so I could know which features occurred which years.

 

[KJ2020]

Does anyone have a link for all the differences between a 1675 and a 16710? When I Google it, I mostly just see that the movement changed. Also wouldn’t mind a good list of changes to the 16710 over time so I could know which features occurred which years.

http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/

 

[mnkoshka]

mnkoshka : great work on the machining! Good idea to machine it to spec. I’m trying to machine down the height of a rehaut. I have a press and a drill. But I’m finding it hard to locate a drill bit for metal that is the right width (width of the crystal rim, the rim above the rehaut that i’d Like to lower. I’m CONUS. Any suggestions on where to source metal drill bits at specific mm increments?

id also like to remove some of the slope on the rehaut to make it closer to 90 degrees vertical. Without having to grind and sand the angled part, which would be tough to get as perfect as the correct size drill bit. So looking for another bit just a little smaller than the one above also. But if you know of any place to get metal bits, I could see if they have the correct sizes. Any thoughts or suggestions on other techniques?

Thanks mate, finding drills that size is possible but they are expensive over 13mm and normally come on a Morse taper for a lathe or mill chuck. You can get a normal straight shank end but costly. Plus they normally only come in 0.5 increments as they are for roughing out before marching.

If you were to find a drill that size you wound really need to secure the job Rey well as a drill that size has a rotational runout and could bite and destroy your case. Unfortunately the best safest way is lathe. If you’re trying to reduce the angle of the rehaut you nad end up dosing the dial lip as you opened the diameter that retains the dial.

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[mnkoshka]

That's beautiful work bro. Would be an awesome mod for a BP 16710.

Thanks mate, it’s a great mod for pretty much any case with the wire bezel retainers. I guess it gives you the option to run gen parts on case that could have a great shape but lacks the Franken specs.

hopefully order the BP 16710 soon and get the ball rolling

 

[Thrasher]

http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/

Awesome Link Thank You

 

[Neon]

http://www.gmtmasterhistory.com/

Perfect, great resource. Thanks.