BP Factory Rolex 16710 GMT Full Review VS Gen

[KJ2020]

I'd like to use the milk case as 16750, is that okay?

Sure if you are going to use a plexy crystal and the corresponding different bezel/insert size. The 16750 is much more like a 4 digit model than a 5 digit model regarding those features.

 

[KJ2020]

 

[KJ2020]

 

[RiffRalf]

That's the BLNR that Rolex should have made!

 

[popi2020]

I wanted an info on the 16710 ... If I buy the 2813 or 2836 or 3186, is the aesthetics always the same?

 

[KJ2020]

I wanted an info on the 16710 ... If I buy the 2813 or 2836 or 3186, is the aesthetics always the same?

No 3186 for 16710's
If you buy BP, 2836 and 2813 will look alike. Datewheels can be different but that's usually a batch issue and can be different even between 2 samples with the same movement.

 

[RiffRalf]

I wanted an info on the 16710 ... If I buy the 2813 or 2836 or 3186, is the aesthetics always the same?

I have three of these now, a Coke, a Pepsi and a 1675, all with a DG3804 movement which is ICHS for the 15710 but CHS for the 1675.The reason why is that Alex at nemboscorner over on the sister site at rwg always has these popping up for sale. For $200 I think these are a steal. With the 2836 they are a bit more pricey pushing $300 last time I looked but still good value and that movement is arguably better.
If you want a CHS you are looking at a DG3804 "CHS lite" which is a tricky movement as per our guru KJ2020. I have that in one of my BP reps, the BP 126713 TT rootbeer. It is slighly misaligned at times, but that does not bother me. It is holding up so far. I wear it perhaps once a week when I wear earthtones. My TD Li did have to reject 6 (yes six) because of faulty movements. I would stick with a normal ICHS movement for these.

I don't think these come with a clone movement, either the "timebomb" which is a noob movement anyway, or the more recent true clones.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of these with any of the ICHS movements. ICHS does not bother me, i am not a frequent flyer which is where CHS comes in useful, and I actually like the quick date set of the ICHS.

To me these relatively cheap BP reps represent what the rep hobby is about. A great looking rep, only distinguishable from gen when close to the eye, and then still only when you know what you are looking at, with a cheapo movement that still tells time well enough, for a very reasonable price. I do like and admire the high end reps with their cloned movements, but when all is said and done with a service you end up spending close to a thousand bucks and with the odd add on like a dial from a different watch i.e the ARF dial for a Noob Daytona, a gen crystal, etc etc you easily shoot up north of $1k, or even close to or at $2k if you calculate getting an orphan watch etc. That gets you 10 of these!

They are addicting though, I just ordered a nice BP Bluesy from Alex to satisfy my inner wideboy!

YMMV of course

 

[KJ2020]

I have three of these now, a Coke, a Pepsi and a 1675, all with a DG3804 movement which is ICHS for the 15710 but CHS for the 1675.The reason why is that Alex at nemboscorner over on the sister site at rwg always has these popping up for sale. For $200 I think these are a steal. With the 2836 they are a bit more pricey pushing $300 last time I looked but still good value and that movement is arguably better.
If you want a CHS you are looking at a DG3804 "CHS lite" which is a tricky movement as per our guru KJ2020. I have that in one of my BP reps, the BP 126713 TT rootbeer. It is slighly misaligned at times, but that does not bother me. It is holding up so far. I wear it perhaps once a week when I wear earthtones. My TD Li did have to reject 6 (yes six) because of faulty movements. I would stick with a normal ICHS movement for these.

I don't think these come with a clone movement, either the "timebomb" which is a noob movement anyway, or the more recent true clones.
I don't think you can go wrong with any of these with any of the ICHS movements. ICHS does not bother me, i am not a frequent flyer which is where CHS comes in useful, and I actually like the quick date set of the ICHS.

To me these relatively cheap BP reps represent what the rep hobby is about. A great looking rep, only distinguishable from gen when close to the eye, and then still only when you know what you are looking at, with a cheapo movement that still tells time well enough, for a very reasonable price. I do like and admire the high end reps with their cloned movements, but when all is said and done with a service you end up spending close to a thousand bucks and with the odd add on like a dial from a different watch i.e the ARF dial for a Noob Daytona, a gen crystal, etc etc you easily shoot up north of $1k, or even close to or at $2k if you calculate getting an orphan watch etc. That gets you 10 of these!

They are addicting though, I just ordered a nice BP Bluesy from Alex to satisfy my inner wideboy!

YMMV of course

Well said bro. I like to get the most mileage for the least expense - my focus is a little more on quantity than quality as long as my minimum standard of quality is met.

I saw that Bluesy from Alex, it's a beaut!

 

[StephanosKostak]

VR3186 no fit ?

 

[KJ2020]

VR3186 no fit ?

Not with interior case mods with a lathe

 

[mjs22075]

Just read the review, just waiting for my one to arrive, Very informative, thanks for taking the time to do the review

 

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[hlkrbs]

Any gen owners here as well ? What version would you suggest to buy ? A 16710 oder 16700 ? And tritium or Sl?

 

[RiffRalf]

Any gen owners here as well ? What version would you suggest to buy ? A 16710 oder 16700 ? And tritium or Sl?

A few years ago when you could buy one for $4k or so I would say buy whatever you like or what you can get for a good price.
At this time with prices around the $10k mark I say NWBIG and get one of these instead.
Like KJ2020 says, an 8/10 rep for a fraction of the price

 

[hlkrbs]

Are there any modders here in this forum that can reshape the BP case ? With some work the BP case will be okay.

 

[RiffRalf]

Are there any modders here in this forum that can reshape the BP case ? With some work the BP case will be okay.

There is some mention of that in this thread in the first few pages IIRC.

 

[KJ2020]

Are there any modders here in this forum that can reshape the BP case ? With some work the BP case will be okay.

tripdog is the ultimate master GMT case modder

 

[hlkrbs]

Thanks so far guys !
one last question.
i have a bracelet with solid end- and middle links, which is not the period correct one right ?
where can I get a good oyster which is period right ?

 

[Sdc83]

Uaoooo! Great work on Bp mid case!!!

 

[Thrasher]

KJ2020 I just re read all 44 pages again. Finally Adrian has had time to start my project, He has been completely over run for months so I'm a bit excited to see what results we get. Wish us, him, me Luck.