Bezel and Dial Review of ZZF V2S 116610LV Submariner and Comparison vs. Gen, ARF V3 and Noob V10

[japer]

I see what you’re saying here and am not even doubting your opinion on the dial. but there are two ways of telling your opinion, I just don’t agree with the option you chose

when someone is obviously happy with the choice they have made and express that by showing a picture of it, I find it kind of untactful and rude to just comment on this by saying “it’s awful”. just let the person be happy with it

there must be and there are (!) different ways of expressing your opinion that don’t include crushing someone’s happiness

and as you said yourself: “express their opinion that can be of help to others”
your first attempt was not of help to anybody

+1: well written.

 

[xxBlack]

A ok lol


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[Clarkent]

I see what you’re saying here and am not even doubting your opinion on the dial. but there are two ways of telling your opinion, I just don’t agree with the option you chose

when someone is obviously happy with the choice they have made and express that by showing a picture of it, I find it kind of untactful and rude to just comment on this by saying “it’s awful”. just let the person be happy with it

there must be and there are (!) different ways of expressing your opinion that don’t include crushing someone’s happiness

and as you said yourself: “express their opinion that can be of help to others”
your first attempt was not of help to anybody

if you read carefully I wrote: sorry, the dial is not good. I did not say that the clock is not good, I defined the green reflection of the dial to light as terrible exactly as the font of the Dial of a Noob 116520 can be terrible but it seems absurd to do so delicate. I did not say that the clock sucks and I have not written to offend anyone. I repeat the concept: for me, the light and the reflection that is ugly from that dial. my advice is to improve it with the best hulk dial out there.
regards

 

[Clarkent]

Have you even had the watch in hand? Do you own the gen?

1. Yes
2. Yes

Regards


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[KJ2020]

did i get scammed from trustytime?

Definitely not a ZZF. Dial text dies not have the 'X' flaw in Rolex. Instant tell along with others mentioned already.

 

[mnkoshka]

1. Yes
2. Yes

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If you have the gen and zzf could you Please take some comparison photos in different light that may help explain the difference you mentioned.

 

[rollinice]

There has been some misunderstanding.

I have emailed and informed you that the extra QC pics attached by mistake is not the ZZF V2S that you will be receiving. It is another watch for another order, and was included by mistake.

You can check and verify with the other QC pics I sent you, with the date at "10", that the serial number shows a different watch.

As per my email, I will arrange new QC pics of the correct piece with date at "25" and get back to you.

Thanks
Andrew

i don’t know if it’s me who has got no luck with you but:

1) purchased a cartier GT panthere in rose gold and you sent QC of the one in YELLOW gold
2) 1st ZZF had crooked xtal
3) 2nd ZZF was not even a ZZF
4) 3rd ZZF has DW not centered https://imgur.com/a/hN6mvu3

please refund me i will try with a different seller

 

[KJ2020]

i don’t know if it’s me who has got no luck with you but:

1) purchased a cartier GT panthere in rose gold and you sent QC of the one in YELLOW gold
2) 1st ZZF had crooked xtal
3) 2nd ZZF was not even a ZZF
4) 3rd ZZF has DW not centered https://imgur.com/a/hN6mvu3

please refund me i will try with a different seller

Sorry you are having these issues bro, but this thread is not the place to carry on a dialogue with a TD. I'm sure Andrew felt the need to respond here due to all the clamor, but any further discussion should happen privately between the two of you.

Raddave

 

[rollinice]

Sorry you are having these issues bro, but this thread is not the place to carry on a dialogue with a TD. I'm sure Andrew felt the need to respond here due to all the clamor, but any further discussion should happen privately between the two of you.

sorry for that outburst

 

[KJ2020]

hello, after reading the various discussions on the movements that mount the v2s, I decided to contact my TD to give me clarifications on the movement that mounts zzf ..... well he says that it does not mount a vr3135 but mounts sh3135.

As I stated previously bro, TDs are not watchmakers or movement experts. I don't have mine in hand yet so I can't say unequivocally but look at these pics. The VR has a blue hairspring and an updated balance staff shock absorber. It also mounts like the gen where you unscrew the mounting screw to butt it up against a case lip - no movement tabs. The pics are showing that the ZZF V2S mounts a VR3135.

 

[trustytime]

i don’t know if it’s me who has got no luck with you but:

1) purchased a cartier GT panthere in rose gold and you sent QC of the one in YELLOW gold
2) 1st ZZF had crooked xtal
3) 2nd ZZF was not even a ZZF
4) 3rd ZZF has DW not centered https://imgur.com/a/hN6mvu3

please refund me i will try with a different seller

1. Factory passed us the wrong stock and QC was prepared for you. Since it was the wrong watch, I replaced it and sent you the correct watch's QC when factory replaced it.
2. I did reject it and get another piece to QC for you.
3. It was the ZZF, but the pic that you shared here was the WRONGLY ATTACHED QC pic. The correct one was with the date at "10", which I retook QC pics at date "25" here for you.
https://imgur.com/a/hN6mvu3

 

[rollinice]

1. Factory passed us the wrong stock and QC was prepared for you. Since it was the wrong watch, I replaced it and sent you the correct watch's QC when factory replaced it.
2. I did reject it and get another piece to QC for you.
3. It was the ZZF, but the pic that you shared here was the WRONGLY ATTACHED QC pic. The correct one was with the date at "10", which I retook QC pics at date "25" here for you.
https://imgur.com/a/hN6mvu3

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DW is not centered, what do you think guys? would you GL this watch?

 

[Clarkent]

If you have the gen and zzf could you Please take some comparison photos in different light that may help explain the difference you mentioned.

this does not exist in gen, there is no need for comparison, you can take any photo of a gen hulk and you will never see that nail of light. have a nice weekend

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[ilcorvo]

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DW is not centered, what do you think guys? would you GL this watch?

dw not centered, and too much space between the case and the bracelet

 

[Bobi01]

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DW is not centered, what do you think guys? would you GL this watch?

im pretty sure that all numbers arent centered... i accepted one with few numbers misaligned and it is not big deal if 3-4 numbers are little misaligned and all other is ok.. i dont see gaps,sels are very nice recessed,ask for other date numbers pictures and decide

 

[Hazing]

i don’t know if it’s me who has got no luck with you but:

1) purchased a cartier GT panthere in rose gold and you sent QC of the one in YELLOW gold
2) 1st ZZF had crooked xtal
3) 2nd ZZF was not even a ZZF
4) 3rd ZZF has DW not centered https://imgur.com/a/hN6mvu3

please refund me i will try with a different seller

Are you trying to post your messages to Andrew here hoping he reads them? Lol

I swear, I don't know how these TDs deal with people.

It sounded to me like you got pics of two watches. The zzf along with the one you posted here.

And "the 3rd" is just more pics of the 2nd watch. And Im pretty sure Andrew doesn't make these watches. Otherwise he would have been sure to make sure you had the most gen like date position in the rep world.

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[xxBlack]

this does not exist in gen, there is no need for comparison, you can take any photo of a gen hulk and you will never see that nail of light. have a nice weekend

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And what is that?


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[japer]

sorry for that outburst

I’ve been a customer at Andrew (trusty) for ten years. All was good. Don’t worry, you’ll be fine. Back to topic

 

[Clarkent]

And what is that?


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damn it is identical !!! buy it is beautiful! my opinion remains mine, you don't have to share it, the important thing is to be happy with your purchase and wear it in a carefree way. See you soon


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[Hazing]

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DW is not centered, what do you think guys? would you GL this watch?

I think sometimes, some people are just looking for a fight and nothing you can say or do is going avoid that. Especially with the current circumstances. I have this crazy neighbor lady and she is going stir crazy from being in the house and she is calling up doctors offices she doesn’t have appointments with and arguing with them. I don’t know if it is just for interaction. I don’t know if it is for attention. Or maybe it’s to relieve a little boredom. But whatever the cause, the main thing is that she not drag other people into her crazy rabbit hole or try to have people align with her when she is being unreasonable because no one wants to get involved in all this drama that exists only in her head.

Ultimately she just gets all worked up over things she can’t control and if she focuses on things she can control, her life and sanity would be in a much better place. Rant over.

I mention her here here because she loves the ZZF Hulk too. :tumbleweed: