I will agree with the guy that said his sub can take a beating because without a doubt mine can, I also clean the bezel numbers with a toothbrush several times a week and mine isn’t flaking at all, I just wish the white in the markets wasn’t as dull as it is, hell I cleaned it with a q Tio and bleach a couple times also, I do WD40 the bracket each time I clean it and let it sit overnight but lately because of a suggestion I found in this thread I believe after I wd40 it I will will coat it with Vaseline and I will admit the Vaseline is a game changer as far as how it makes the bracelet feel and move, I had my arf yacht master serviced and waterproofed because it was not working at all when I received it but the submariner I wear everyday I put on straight out of the box and didn’t have it serviced at all, I can’t speak to the durability of a noob or any other brand because the zzf is the first and only sub I have ever had, I know each watch is different and at times you get a bad one but I would definitely recommend the zzf to anyone who is considering purchasing
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