Beware of Me - InTimeWatch's Disastrous Experience.

[mister twister]

Hey guys, I was ripped off by TD InTimeWatch like never before. They sent me watch that dont work, and when i asked to pay more to exchange it for a better one they scratched it up and said i did it. Crazy, right? I want to warn other members about them. Where is the best place to share my experience, below?

Beware of InTimeWatch – My Disastrous Experience
Over the course of about 6 years, I’ve purchased tens of replicas from PureTime, TrustyTime, JTime and ToroBravo for myself and my friends & family (most of them work to this day) and even though sometimes there were unwarranted delays or minor issues, I can’t say that any of them failed to address those or are in any way scammers like InTimeWatch, here is how:

The Purchase
I tried to get myself an Xmass present and on 26 Nov ordered a watch which states “Genuine movement Caliber 4401” I’ve asked the customer support guy if chrono is same as gen, I’ve asked QC guy if chrono is same as gen, even explaining how chrono works in gen watch. They’ve all said yeah its all good, working perfect like gen.

But as soon as I received it, unwrapped it, whined it I noticed that chrono is completely fake and minute hand isn’t moving at all. I immediately took a video of this, sent it to the InTimeWatch, put the silicone protector on the dial, wrapped it in bubble paper and placed it back into the box that it came from.

The Runaround
On several emails, I told them they I don’t want to wear a watch that screams FAKE because I would feel like an idiot wearing it, so please take more of my money and send me a newer generation replica where all the chrono hands work same as genuine. But they kept responding that I should be happy with this garbage, because the hand that should show minutes shows 24 hours. Like 24 hours on dial for 30 minutes, how great. On 3-4th time asking for the address where I can send the return, they finally gave me their address and I’ve spent 30 USD for sending it back.

A few weeks went by and seeing in the tracking info that my watch was delivered like a week ago I asked them how much extra do I need to pay to get the 2nd gen watch with fully functional chrono? But they responded saying:

“There was no note in the package that you want an exchange. Once we receive it from the factory and confirm the brand new condition, we will confirm if an exchange can be offered. Thank you!"

This is when I realized that they are going to f*ck me so I immediately sent an email to all TDs asking who can send that 2nd gen watch before Chinese new year. Obviously my Xmass and NY presents were ruined so at least I hoped to get the watch I wanted sooner than end of March.

The Accusation
And after the initial red flag I wasn’t surprised to hear from them after a week that:

“the watch returned is NOT in a brand-new condition and there are signs of wear as per the images below:

Image 1: https://prnt.sc/aL9SmnMNKDE9
Image 2: https://prnt.sc/c9m-FStj8urW
Image 3: https://prnt.sc/MOCw2V54OSUV

If you cant open those links don’t worry it illustrates a watch with quite a lot of scratches on the dial and bracelet, definitely not something that could have happened to the watch that I’ve held in my hand for about 5 minutes and put silicone protector and bubble wrap. I’ve sent quite a few watches for repair to the TD’s mentioned above and they never got scratched in transit.

So I am 100000% confident that the watch I’ve sent was in brand new condition, perfect to return to factory as I was eager to pay more for an upgraded version that I wouldn’t be embarrassed to wear. Logical, right? Not for InTimeWatch who claim that I was wearing them so much to get them so scratched up and beat up, and than all of a sudden I decided to return and ask for money in return. Like its my hobby to scratch watches and send them back for full refund? It’s like I am talking to 5-year-old kids…

Their main argument: why would you take off protective film from watch that you don’t want to wear. But how would I know if they work or not at all if the film covers the dial? Obviously, I was excited that my Xmass present came so I started unwrapping it by removing the film and once I realized that it’s chrono is fake as fk I made a video, put it back and sent it to them.

Conclusion
Obviously, I told them that this BS isn’t going to run with me and if they don’t refund the money, I’ve paid for this blatant fake plus the 30 USD they got me to pay for shipping it back I will share my experience on all the forms where those idiots get all their clients from. And why would anyone with a working brain want to deal with such “TD” when there are at least 4 that I can vouch for, who have never scammed me and who update their website almost every day for the past 6 years that I know of. To that they responded that I can write whatever I like and they will respond with their evidence and that blackmail will never work on them.

So, I am here merely to at least get some justice since I can’t recover the money, I’ve paid for a watch with fake chrono that they’ve even scratched up. Plus the shipping. I didn’t want it as soon as I opened it, and how do they think I want it now that they have scratched it all up?

How is that for a Trusted Dealer?!

And now get your popcorn out and prepare to hear how these idiot kids from InTimeWatch explain that they are not scammers, and I am just a weird guy that likes to scratch wants and ask for refunds :-D

 

[Feefo]

I'll ask a couple of questions, if I may.
What website did you order from and what means of communication did you use?
What watch (website link please) did you order?
When exactly did you receive it and when did you make a claim to them?
Are you aware that, even without scrathes, once you remove the plastic wraps you void the warranty? Are you aware of their general policies?

- Refund & Return Policy:

We don’t offer the refund for returned items. You have 48 hours from the moment your package arrives to tell us if there is a fault with your watch. If we do not hear any complaints about your watches within 48 hours, we will accept that you are happy with your order and there are no issues to resolve. If the watch has a problem, just ship it back to us and we will send to factory for repair.

We do not accept returns and exchanges unless your case is a special one (for example, DOA). Refunds or exchanges, if offered, will be issued for the 80% of the total amount of the purchased product only less the transaction fees. The returned item must be 100% brand new, plastic wrapped in the same condition as we shipped out. We do not offer exchange or refund if the plastic wrapped is opened or damaged. We do not offer refunds for any free items received as part of any promotion.

 

[Reaps]

What watch did you order? The new APSF 4401? Do you have the exact link? What do you mean the chrono is fake? Do you mean one of the subdials is slaved to the hour hand? Or was it a defective watch?

Regarding the exchange thing I think most TDs state that returns or exchanges have to happen with stickers on which is fairly normal with every TD. Which is why when I recieve a watch I leave stickers and wrap on to test functions before unwrapping.

Terms and conditions of use - InTimeWatch

Our terms and conditions of use

www.intime06.co

 

[Jossé]

What watch did you order? The new APSF 4401? Do you have the exact link? What do you mean the chrono is fake? Do you mean one of the subdials is slaved to the hour hand? Or was it a defective watch?

Regarding the exchange thing I think most TDs state that returns or exchanges have to happen with stickers on which is fairly normal with every TD. Which is why when I recieve a watch I leave stickers and wrap on to test functions before unwrapping.

Terms and conditions of use - InTimeWatch

Our terms and conditions of use

www.intime06.co

It sounds like you’ve bought a 7750 chrono with faux subdials? If that’s the case, you’ll have to take some responsibility for not doing enough research before buying..

 

[DJ16013]

these idiot kids from InTimeWatch explain that they are not scammers

I don't think this is the right approach, honestly.

 

[mister twister]

I'll ask a couple of questions, if I may.
What website did you order from and what means of communication did you use?
What watch (website link please) did you order?
When exactly did you receive it and when did you make a claim to them?
Are you aware that, even without scrathes, once you remove the plastic wraps you void the warranty? Are you aware of their general policies?

- Refund & Return Policy:

We don’t offer the refund for returned items. You have 48 hours from the moment your package arrives to tell us if there is a fault with your watch. If we do not hear any complaints about your watches within 48 hours, we will accept that you are happy with your order and there are no issues to resolve. If the watch has a problem, just ship it back to us and we will send to factory for repair.

We do not accept returns and exchanges unless your case is a special one (for example, DOA). Refunds or exchanges, if offered, will be issued for the 80% of the total amount of the purchased product only less the transaction fees. The returned item must be 100% brand new, plastic wrapped in the same condition as we shipped out. We do not offer exchange or refund if the plastic wrapped is opened or damaged. We do not offer refunds for any free items received as part of any promotion.

I've been dealing with Ryan via [email protected];

I've made the custom order via website https://www.intime06.co;

I believe at that time they didn't have this watch on their website since they update it not as often as Trusty, so I sent them this link asking if they are sure that this watch has the chrono that works same as gen: https://trustytime88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=28409

I received the watch on Dec 16, 2024, made the video of the chrono not working and asked where do I send it back, so that I can exchange it for a better version: https://trustytime88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=241_247&products_id=28779

Well how the heck am I going to see that chrono is fake as fk when the dial is covered with a fat layer of sticker. I guess I could see if a second or minute hand is moving through that sticker but seeing a chrono dial moving would be quite hard. Those stickers are worth nothing so if they dont like that i sent it back without stickers they can charge me. But not fully scratch the watch and pretend like I did it by wearing it ,when I told them a hundred times that I would never put such non-functional garbage on my hand.

 

[Jossé]

I've been dealing with Ryan via [email protected];

I've made the custom order via website https://www.intime06.co;

I believe at that time they didn't have this watch on their website since they update it not as often as Trusty, so I sent them this link asking if they are sure that this watch has the chrono that works same as gen: https://trustytime88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=352&products_id=28409

I received the watch on Dec 16, 2024, made the video of the chrono not working and asked where do I send it back, so that I can exchange it for a better version: https://trustytime88.io/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=241_247&products_id=28779

Well how the heck am I going to see that chrono is fake as fk when the dial is covered with a fat layer of sticker. I guess I could see if a second or minute hand is moving through that sticker but seeing a chrono dial moving would be quite hard. Those stickers are worth nothing so if they dont like that i sent it back without stickers they can charge me. But not fully scratch the watch and pretend like I did it by wearing it ,when I told them a hundred times that I would never put such non-functional garbage on my hand.

You can clearly see in the video from Trusty, which you linked to yourself, that it doesn’t function like the GEN, right?

 

[mister twister]

It sounds like you’ve bought a 7750 chrono with faux subdials? If that’s the case, you’ll have to take some responsibility for not doing enough research before buying..

So the TD and their QC people don't have any idea of what they are selling when I ask them [quote on quote]:

"Hello. If the chronograph works as it should, meaning that, when activated:
- at 9 o’clock shows chronograph minutes
- at 3 o’clock shows hours
- at 6 o’clock shows seconds
then I confirm. Thanks"

and you believe it is my fault? I don't think so, even if you blame me partly for not doing the job of a unprofessional TD it doesn't excuse them from receiving the watch back, scratching it and saying I did it. All this BS about sticker policies is for the birds, they sent that watch to me from the city to which I returned it (I dont want to mention the name, just in case, but I've lived there, they have couriers and everything) so there is no problem to use your unprofessional TD hands to put those stickers back on and charge me for your time. I'd understand it and pay it because ultimately I want a watch I would be happy to wear (not embarrassed to wear) and will gladly pay whatever to get it (within about $1k ofc).

Even though I haven't been writing anything on this forum until today, it doesn't mean I am not a big fan of replica watches or that I am some wierdo. I think mechanical watches, especially with complications are a true masterpiece and I give big respect to the factories that can pull something like that off and sell it to us for under 1000 USD. Had I been a billionaire I be buying them from boutiques and not from idiots and scammers like InTimeWatch. As stated I've done business with many TDs ordering several watches from each of them and all my issues were always resolved professionally. But for what this Ryan from InTimeWatch did he shouldn't be worthy to be a called TD, as he discredits other TDs. Some of whom put a ton of effort into their operations, look how often PureTime or TrustyTime update their website.

 

[Jossé]

So the TD and their QC people don't have any idea of what they are selling when I ask them [quote on quote]:

"Hello. If the chronograph works as it should, meaning that, when activated:
- at 9 o’clock shows chronograph minutes
- at 3 o’clock shows hours
- at 6 o’clock shows seconds
then I confirm. Thanks"

and you believe it is my fault? I don't think so, even if you blame me partly for not doing the job of a unprofessional TD it doesn't excuse them from receiving the watch back, scratching it and saying I did it. All this BS about sticker policies is for the birds, they sent that watch to me from the city to which I returned it (I dont want to mention the name, just in case, but I've lived there, they have couriers and everything) so there is no problem to use your unprofessional TD hands to put those stickers back on and charge me for your time. I'd understand it and pay it because ultimately I want a watch I would be happy to wear (not embarrassed to wear) and will gladly pay whatever to get it (within about $1k ofc).

Even though I haven't been writing anything on this forum until today, it doesn't mean I am not a big fan of replica watches or that I am some wierdo. I think mechanical watches, especially with complications are a true masterpiece and I give big respect to the factories that can pull something like that off and sell it to us for under 1000 USD. Had I been a billionaire I be buying them from boutiques and not from idiots and scammers like InTimeWatch. As stated I've done business with many TDs ordering several watches from each of them and all my issues were always resolved professionally. But for what this Ryan from InTimeWatch did he shouldn't be worthy to be a called TD, as he discredits other TDs. Some of whom put a ton of effort into their operations, look how often PureTime or TrustyTime update their website.

I don’t mean to be a dick, but come on… you paid 358 dollars. You should know you’re not getting a clone movement at that price, especially considering how many watches you’ve bought in the past.

And one of the first things I learned in this hobby is that there are often language barriers when communicating with sellers in China. They don’t always understand what you’re talking about but will still give you an answer to keep the conversation going. Thats why research is everything in this hobby.

It’s an unfortunate situation, of course. And if you believe they acted dishonestly and damaged the watch after you sent it back, that’s a different matter. My point was simply that you can’t pay 350 dollars and expect gold and green pastures.

 

[mister twister]

I don’t mean to be a dick, but come on… you paid 358 dollars. You should know you’re not getting a clone movement at that price, especially considering how many watches you’ve bought in the past.

And one of the first things I learned in this hobby is that there are often language barriers when communicating with sellers in China. They don’t always understand what you’re talking about but will still give you an answer to keep the conversation going. Thats why research is everything in this hobby.

It’s an unfortunate situation, of course. And if you believe they acted dishonestly and damaged the watch after you sent it back, that’s a different matter. My point was simply that you can’t pay 350 dollars and expect gold and green pastures.

I dont think you are a dick but I think you have some connection to this scam TD because for some reason you are trying to defend their scam and divert attention to me not knowing what I am doing and how I am at fault. I dont know if its Ryan speaking behind the name Jossé (I doubt that, cuz Ryan has logic and arguments of a small kid, but who knows) or you are their ambassador or something like that. Clearly you have some motive to waste my time and try to defend these scammers with quite weak arguments.

So for outside viewers who might think that I am a strange guy and that InTimeWatch is not a blatant scammer I will waste a few more minutes of your time to respond to you.

1. You said: "You can clearly see in the video from Trusty, which you linked to yourself, that it doesn’t function like the GEN, right?"

Tell me please what exactly you clearly see from that 1 minute and 20 second video? I see a watch where:
- at 9 o’clock shows chronograph minutes (had it been a 5-10 minute video showing the dial one could see if the minute hand is moving or not)
- at 3 o’clock shows hours (obviously had it been a video that took over an hour I could see that hour chrono hand is moving)
- at 6 o’clock shows seconds (that I can confirm easily since the video shows a few seconds of the dial where that hand moves)

After, once the chrono reset button is pushed all the hands point upwards, meaning all chrono is reset. In the garbage fake watch, that those scammers sold me the 9 o’clock hand doesn't move at all as its always stuck at 21 minutes, for your convenience I will attach the video I took here: https://we.tl/t-ZiHZTqamJp

2. Next you said: "you paid 358 dollars. You should know you’re not getting a clone movement at that price"

Yes, its true that I bought quite a few watches over the years and even in April 2024 I paid 455 USD for Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Worldtimer with extra bracelet for an extra fee. The watch is about the same price and it works same as gen, the complication of Worldtimer is no walk in the park and there is no issue whatsoever. Moreover, I've bought AP Royal Oak Offshore watches back in 2015 and even back than the chrono worked as properly and cost about 500 USD so I could reasonably assume that in 10 years factories learned how to bring that function to a smaller AP case for about the same price. Offshore is pretty much out of fashion now as its just too big.

3. "Language barriers when communicating with sellers in China"

Well Ryan clearly has no language barrier when I asked him if watch chrono functions same as gen and he said yes. When I specifically asked if 3, 6, 9 o’clock shows chronograph what it should? I was also told yes. When I said I want to exchange this garbage for a super clone AP that costs an extra 530‬ USD he also understood that and decided to refuse any of my money and simply scratch the watch as an excuse.

I don't know what got into him, it wasn't the first watch I bought from him and I was planning to buy Cartier for my wife right after my AP would function as advertise for any money. But he just decided steal my money and call it a day. So if that isn't a scam TD I don't know who is?

 

[Jossé]

I dont think you are a dick but I think you have some connection to this scam TD because for some reason you are trying to defend their scam and divert attention to me not knowing what I am doing and how I am at fault. I dont know if its Ryan speaking behind the name Jossé (I doubt that, cuz Ryan has logic and arguments of a small kid, but who knows) or you are their ambassador or something like that. Clearly you have some motive to waste my time and try to defend these scammers with quite weak arguments.

So for outside viewers who might think that I am a strange guy and that InTimeWatch is not a blatant scammer I will waste a few more minutes of your time to respond to you.

Damn, busted. I wonder if they’ll dock my pay since I was so obvious

- at 9 o’clock shows chronograph minutes (had it been a 5-10 minute video showing the dial one could see if the minute hand is moving or not)

No.. 9 o'clock is slaved to the hour hand, you see it when he adjusts the time.

Yes, its true that I bought quite a few watches over the years and even in April 2024 I paid 455 USD for Omega Seamaster Aqua Terra Worldtimer with extra bracelet for an extra fee. The watch is about the same price and it works same as gen, the complication of Worldtimer is no walk in the park and there is no issue whatsoever. Moreover, I've bought AP Royal Oak Offshore watches back in 2015 and even back than the chrono worked as properly and cost about 500 USD so I could reasonably assume that in 10 years factories learned how to bring that function to a smaller AP case for about the same price. Offshore is pretty much out of fashion now as its just too big.

Sorry to say, but what you think and believe doesn’t matter much in this industry. And the saying “you get what you pay for” often holds true. Even the leap between a 350 and 500 rep can be huge.

Well Ryan clearly has no language barrier when I asked him if watch chrono functions same as gen and he said yes. When I specifically asked if 3, 6, 9 o’clock shows chronograph what it should? I was also told yes. When I said I want to exchange this garbage for a super clone AP that costs an extra 530‬ USD he also understood that and decided to refuse any of my money and simply scratch the watch as an excuse.

InTime gave you an opportunity to send the watch back and pay the difference for a better model, something they were under no obligation to do. That they expect the watch to be mint in order to accept it back is a given, if you ask me.

That you choose to take this as a personal attack rather than a learning experience is entirely on you. But that being said, I STRONGLY disagree with your way of handling business and your attitude bothers me.

Cheers!

 

[Feefo]

I dont think you are a dick but I think you have some connection to this scam TD because for some reason you are trying to defend their scam and divert attention to me not knowing what I am doing and how I am at fault. I dont know if its Ryan speaking behind the name Jossé (I doubt that, cuz Ryan has logic and arguments of a small kid, but who knows) or you are their ambassador or something like that. Clearly you have some motive to waste my time and try to defend these scammers with quite weak arguments.

That's a ridiculous allegation that only demonstrates that despite your "numerous TD purchases" you haven't learned a thing about the industry. Also, you've wasted any residual sympathy any sensible member may still have had for your situation.

 

[Feefo]

Oh and, another accusation of Ryan being a scammer may have as a result limiting your capabilities to post on the forum, especially after I pasted his policies that clearly state that what you sent back was not covered by warranty and hence not refundable.

@ryanwayer may want to add something to all this.

 

[GingerBubba]

When the guy's first post is an attempt to blackmail a TD (which at least he admits to), you know which way the thread's going to go. Not quite C word, but definitely end of a bell.

 

[mister twister]

That's a ridiculous allegation that only demonstrates that despite your "numerous TD purchases" you haven't learned a thing about the industry. Also, you've wasted any residual sympathy any sensible member may still have had for your situation.

You thinking that I spent all this time typing on this form seeking sympathy clearly demonstrates the following:

1. You didn't read my initial post till the end, cuz that's where my motive is depicted.

2. How biased you and Jossé are in situation and how you try to side with your bellowed and recommended TD. Absolutely ignoring the elephant in the room being the fact that I received a totally faulty watch and instead of fixing it or exchanging it, they scratched it up and told me to go fk off. I guess they knew that you and your fellas will back them up, which is sad for this forum in general.

Nevertheless, I hope that a person without any biases looking for a quality replica watch will all this might rightfully think:

"hey, this guy got himself a Xmass gift of a watch that clearly isn't working and when he tried to exchange it for a working one or at least get it fixed he got a few ridiculous pictures of a totally scratched up watch and was told to fk off. Now that sounds quite off and maybe InTimeWatch is a seller I'd rather not do business with"

And if that happens and this amazing "Trusted Dealer" Ryan from InTimeWatch will get less sales in favor of professional TDs with good business ethics like PureTime, Trusty Time or Toro Bravo - this means that my efforts and time spent were not in vain.

Good luck to any replica buyers out there I hope you will not be scammed like me!

 

[derjenigewelcher]

Thanks, another one for my "wont sell to" list.
Lot of bad luck on all sides, maybe miscommunication, maybe not reading policies, maybe scratching watch...
tons of bad luck.
Write off the bucks, and move on.
We all had this. Change dealer and thats it. Ryan is so long in the industry, he is 100% no scammer, he would not survive so long.

 

[Fizzbuzz]

When the guy's first post is an attempt to blackmail a TD (which at least he admits to), you know which way the thread's going to go. Not quite C word, but definitely end of a bell.

What this guy said.
He is here since May and despite buying several replicas from multiple TDs, no posts or other interaction whatsoever which is kind of fine as you are not obligated but it raises a flag in my book.

 

[Feefo]

You thinking that I spent all this time typing on this form seeking sympathy clearly demonstrates the following:

1. You didn't read my initial post till the end, cuz that's where my motive is depicted.

2. How biased you and Jossé are in situation and how you try to side with your bellowed and recommended TD. Absolutely ignoring the elephant in the room being the fact that I received a totally faulty watch and instead of fixing it or exchanging it, they scratched it up and told me to go fk off. I guess they knew that you and your fellas will back them up, which is sad for this forum in general.

Nevertheless, I hope that a person without any biases looking for a quality replica watch will all this might rightfully think:

"hey, this guy got himself a Xmass gift of a watch that clearly isn't working and when he tried to exchange it for a working one or at least get it fixed he got a few ridiculous pictures of a totally scratched up watch and was told to fk off. Now that sounds quite off and maybe InTimeWatch is a seller I'd rather not do business with"

And if that happens and this amazing "Trusted Dealer" Ryan from InTimeWatch will get less sales in favor of professional TDs with good business ethics like PureTime, Trusty Time or Toro Bravo - this means that my efforts and time spent were not in vain.

Good luck to any replica buyers out there I hope you will not be scammed like me!

The elephant in the room is you ignoring the TDs T&C's and the fact that you got what you paid for and now try to blame someone else for your shortcomings.
You handled the situation poorly and coming here accusing the TD of misconduct without being able to prove it and calling him an outright scammer publicly is just childish.

 

[Karbon74]

Hey guys, I was ripped off by TD InTimeWatch like never before. They sent me watch that dont work, and when i asked to pay more to exchange it for a better one they scratched it up and said i did it. Crazy, right? I want to warn other members about them. Where is the best place to share my experience, below?

Beware of InTimeWatch – My Disastrous Experience
Over the course of about 6 years, I’ve purchased tens of replicas from PureTime, TrustyTime, JTime and ToroBravo for myself and my friends & family (most of them work to this day) and even though sometimes there were unwarranted delays or minor issues, I can’t say that any of them failed to address those or are in any way scammers like InTimeWatch, here is how:

The Purchase
I tried to get myself an Xmass present and on 26 Nov ordered a watch which states “Genuine movement Caliber 4401” I’ve asked the customer support guy if chrono is same as gen, I’ve asked QC guy if chrono is same as gen, even explaining how chrono works in gen watch. They’ve all said yeah its all good, working perfect like gen.

But as soon as I received it, unwrapped it, whined it I noticed that chrono is completely fake and minute hand isn’t moving at all. I immediately took a video of this, sent it to the InTimeWatch, put the silicone protector on the dial, wrapped it in bubble paper and placed it back into the box that it came from.

The Runaround
On several emails, I told them they I don’t want to wear a watch that screams FAKE because I would feel like an idiot wearing it, so please take more of my money and send me a newer generation replica where all the chrono hands work same as genuine. But they kept responding that I should be happy with this garbage, because the hand that should show minutes shows 24 hours. Like 24 hours on dial for 30 minutes, how great. On 3-4th time asking for the address where I can send the return, they finally gave me their address and I’ve spent 30 USD for sending it back.

A few weeks went by and seeing in the tracking info that my watch was delivered like a week ago I asked them how much extra do I need to pay to get the 2nd gen watch with fully functional chrono? But they responded saying:

“There was no note in the package that you want an exchange. Once we receive it from the factory and confirm the brand new condition, we will confirm if an exchange can be offered. Thank you!"

This is when I realized that they are going to f*ck me so I immediately sent an email to all TDs asking who can send that 2nd gen watch before Chinese new year. Obviously my Xmass and NY presents were ruined so at least I hoped to get the watch I wanted sooner than end of March.

The Accusation
And after the initial red flag I wasn’t surprised to hear from them after a week that:

“the watch returned is NOT in a brand-new condition and there are signs of wear as per the images below:

Image 1: https://prnt.sc/aL9SmnMNKDE9
Image 2: https://prnt.sc/c9m-FStj8urW
Image 3: https://prnt.sc/MOCw2V54OSUV

If you cant open those links don’t worry it illustrates a watch with quite a lot of scratches on the dial and bracelet, definitely not something that could have happened to the watch that I’ve held in my hand for about 5 minutes and put silicone protector and bubble wrap. I’ve sent quite a few watches for repair to the TD’s mentioned above and they never got scratched in transit.

So I am 100000% confident that the watch I’ve sent was in brand new condition, perfect to return to factory as I was eager to pay more for an upgraded version that I wouldn’t be embarrassed to wear. Logical, right? Not for InTimeWatch who claim that I was wearing them so much to get them so scratched up and beat up, and than all of a sudden I decided to return and ask for money in return. Like its my hobby to scratch watches and send them back for full refund? It’s like I am talking to 5-year-old kids…

Their main argument: why would you take off protective film from watch that you don’t want to wear. But how would I know if they work or not at all if the film covers the dial? Obviously, I was excited that my Xmass present came so I started unwrapping it by removing the film and once I realized that it’s chrono is fake as fk I made a video, put it back and sent it to them.

Conclusion
Obviously, I told them that this BS isn’t going to run with me and if they don’t refund the money, I’ve paid for this blatant fake plus the 30 USD they got me to pay for shipping it back I will share my experience on all the forms where those idiots get all their clients from. And why would anyone with a working brain want to deal with such “TD” when there are at least 4 that I can vouch for, who have never scammed me and who update their website almost every day for the past 6 years that I know of. To that they responded that I can write whatever I like and they will respond with their evidence and that blackmail will never work on them.

So, I am here merely to at least get some justice since I can’t recover the money, I’ve paid for a watch with fake chrono that they’ve even scratched up. Plus the shipping. I didn’t want it as soon as I opened it, and how do they think I want it now that they have scratched it all up?

How is that for a Trusted Dealer?!

And now get your popcorn out and prepare to hear how these idiot kids from InTimeWatch explain that they are not scammers, and I am just a weird guy that likes to scratch wants and ask for refunds :-D

There are a few things that I note, trying to be objective.

1. OP bought a modified 7750 decorated, not a 4401 clone, knowingly as he has the links.
2. The watch was returned without stickers. You don’t need to remove the bracelet stickers to see the dial
3. OP has no history of TD reviews for the claimed prior purchase

The golden standard here is that the buyer should know the limitations of the exact model that he is buying. The TD is here to sell the exact watch ordered. They are not consultants.

It’s beyond naive to expect that they can be versed in the thousands of models they sell.

OP ordered a specific watch and provided a link. The exact model was shipped. The story should have ended here.

InTime accepted a return, that shows good faith. They could legitimately have refused but they did accept. If all the stickers were on, then that would have been a different story.

OP, do you have irrefutable proof that you sent the watch back with the bracelet fully stickered?

 

[Karbon74]

Also, i do encourage everyone to look up OP’s
video graciously provided

for your convenience I will attach the video I took here: https://we.tl/t-ZiHZTqamJp

Preferably on a big screen.
And draw your own conclusions on the watch state

Do you have a wedding ring on your left hand OP?