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Best Pam 438 Tuttonero late 2015

Zeinharis

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If price don't matter, always de seagull ?
This is better movement that the 7750 ?
Thanks

If you don't mind about the price and the balance wheel positions then YES, you can't go wrong with 7750 version as well as long you follow the general rule on treating the movt.
 

Mckhenry1

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I picked one up last week, if mine has an ar coat on the inside I would be very surprised. There is that much reflection you can see things that haven't happened yet, plus there seems to be a ghosting/ double of the reflection, that makes me think no AR, can you get an aftermarket crystal for these, as my watch guy said most of the air escaping from the watch was through the sapphire.
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Knifemaker

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Wow! What maker supplied the watch with that crystal? I have a 386 here that is almost identical case wise and the crystal is outstanding! Bought it here M2M, and was told it is ZF. May be, but quality look like the typical V6 with very good case finish and attention to detail.

Knife
 

repsss

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It is very difficult to show the difference on pics. On the left side is the new Pam 438 V6F with Seagull. On the right side is my old V6 with 7750 movement.

I hope you can see the different ceramic color. The new one is more gray. Also the fontcolor is a little bit different. However I think it is just because of the lume.
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So, the new ceramic color is not as accurate to gen as the older model? Maybe [MENTION=35350]ALE7575[/MENTION] could help? Because I just bought mine from puretime, v6f with A7750 and it looks light grey. Not as dark as the right one on these pictures.
 

Mckhenry1

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The description just had sapphire crystal, no AR mentioned and it seems to have no AR from looking, 2 strong reflections of light coming from crystal.
 

mysterio

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The rep and gen PAM438 does not have the best of AR. Here is a photo from the review thread (it's discussing the hand length but take note of the AR on the Gen on the left).

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As for the comment of the new ceramic color, I can't say I see a big difference in shade between the old and the new samples. Plus I have not seen a gen and rep 438 pictured side by side so really we can't say whether the color has gone farther or nearer to the gen color.
 

ALE7575

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It is really difficult to get the same colour in all batches of a rep production
I have managed many times different batches of the same rep and the differences of colour were frequent.
Reps have neither a standard to follow nor quality control enough to assure the uniformity and consistency of results
Anyway, only side by side and under deep observation you can notice the differences

We can say that rep ceramic is overall accurate enough for the rep purposes

Don't ask for perfection in a watch 10-20 times cheaper

ALE