BE AWARE! Flawed KW PAM 127 with SF movement- ***[QCpics allowed]***

[cal8500]

I asked at ChazingTime and he told me, that the issue is still exists, but there are also batches with the correct movment available.

But probably it took more time for delivery as usual.

 

[undercoverz]

Can you elaborate on improvements?


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Sure. Just see the posts of recent KW 127. More pronounced sunbeam effect and better sunburst effect. Same height for dagger regulator and swan neck. Improved bevelled bridges. Just to name a few...

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...ment-New-Never-worn-from-EU?highlight=pam+127

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb/showthread.php/272215-Panerai-127-Fiddy?highlight=pam+127

And I wrote this previously, which seems to be KW's new movement.

https://forum.replica-watch.info/vb...I-movements?highlight=special+movements+op+xi

Cheers.

 

[Tengzai]

Hi all!

Newbie here, just received QC pic of my very first rep, the Pam 127.

I have done quite a bit of reading but my eyes are not trained enough to know what i have received is good enough for accepting.

I ordered the 127 KW.



However, please see:

It seems the millimetre+/- engraving at the swan neck dagger is too far from the blue screw to be a kw rep in my noob eyes.
However the engravings on the rest of the watch all look mostly look more kw than anything else. Hence, I am confused.

Should I accept this rep as a KW from Toros?

And omg, just notice half my minute hand is black in color wtf.

 

[Mopsi]

Hi


For me it looks like a mix.

 

[Tengzai]

Hi


For me it looks like a mix.

Funny...not sure to accept or not.

Just realize my minute hand is blacked out the back half.. omg

 

[undercoverz]

Funny...not sure to accept or not.

Just realize my minute hand is blacked out the back half.. omg

Take it for sure. This is the improved movement from KW now.


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[az erik]

But yes your second hand looks to have been sprayed with paint, could be a reflection though see from a different angle


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[JMMC]

I would say it's just a "bad" reflection, as maaaaany times happens with "dark zones".
However I would kindly ask for another pic from a different angle to be sure.
Or just, point and explain your concern to your TD , sending a pictutre with a color marking around "the fault", and ask him to check it for you. That would be enough to be 100% sure.
Also, I can not see anything wrong with the movement, looks pretty good to me.

 

[ALE7575]

As I have answered to Tengzai by PM, I agree there is a mixed part in the movement because the balance cock is a SF clearly whereas the rest is from KW.

Congrats Mopsi for the catch, it was no easy. I had already answered to Tengzai before read your post. I got impressed when I read your post with the same comment than mine one. Rep points added
I realized the balance cock differences when I was writing the PAM 127 comparison review. Indeed I published a comparison pic that I show below. This is maybe the best way to recognize the origin of a PAM 127 movement, but this is really curious with the mixed part

BALANCE COCK – INCABLOC – SWAN NECK COMPARISONS WITH GEN


Seconds hand is most likely a reflaection
ALE

 

[Tengzai]

Appreciate all the help. However since the balance cock is from SF, will the sunburst brushing effect be unbalanced bec its a mix?
Hopefully second hand is a reflection, have requested more QC pics.

 

[cool_case]

Hi Guys,

thanks for the info given here, it was very helpful. I accepted my watch, therefore I'm posting my QC pics, they look really great!

 

[senator]

please can someone check this? Thank you guys!! (Latest KW Version)

 

[etto09]

Very nice but the dagger is too long!

 

[Uberschall]

Very nice but the dagger is too long!

Are you kidding? The dagger looks the same as before, but they finally moved the regulation scale where it should be.
That movement looks good to me.

Here's a gen 127 movement:

 

[senator]

thank you Guys, payment done!

 

[ALE7575]

please can someone check this? Thank you guys!! (Latest KW Version)

This movement is correct
It seems even to have corrected the position of regulation scale - lllllllll + on balance cock, which was very close to the blue screw in previous batches

ALE

 

[Uberschall]

This movement is correct
It seems even to have corrected the position of regulation scale - lllllllll + on balance cock, which was very close to the blue screw in previous batches

ALE

Exactly! :thumbup:

 

[ALE7575]

Exactly! :thumbup:

Thanks for confirming it !

ALE

 

[senator]

Ale, thanks for taking your time to check my watch! :greedy:

 

[ALE7575]

Ale, thanks for taking your time to check my watch! :greedy:

My pleasure
We are here to help
ALE