My man, thats crystal clear.
One for each foot and one for each arm. Stupid question...
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ARF silently released new 16610LN's and 16610LV's
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One for each foot and one for each arm. Stupid question...
- 12/3/18
- 34,661
- 66,753
- 113
These are so similar to RAF that it's hard to believe RAF is not a partner/subsidiary/pseudonym for ARF.
There are some improvements over previous ARF/RAF models.
The movement indeed looks like a VR, Ryan is calling it an SH V2. There are some tiny differences to what we know as the VR, but not significant. Noted at red dots. Datewheel does look a little bold in some pics. It looks OK to me on the no rehaut LN. Cyclops looks slightly crooked on this sample, that's a QC issue.
Overall this offering looks great, the case (CG exception noted below), dial, hands, bezel, insert, bracelet, clasp all look excellent. If the bezel operates better than the RAF, that will really seal this deal.
The clasp coronet is nicely centered and looks great next to my gen.
On the downside, the insert has the characteristic (and un gen-like) ARF long tail on the top of the 2 digit. Oh well. Also ARF/RAF continue to be oblivious to the fact that the CGs need to be longer. Here are four random actual gens, and a closeup to the new ARF. Also note the ARF crown platform for the coronet is too thick and pronounced, it should lie flatter.
There are some improvements over previous ARF/RAF models.
The movement indeed looks like a VR, Ryan is calling it an SH V2. There are some tiny differences to what we know as the VR, but not significant. Noted at red dots. Datewheel does look a little bold in some pics. It looks OK to me on the no rehaut LN. Cyclops looks slightly crooked on this sample, that's a QC issue.
Overall this offering looks great, the case (CG exception noted below), dial, hands, bezel, insert, bracelet, clasp all look excellent. If the bezel operates better than the RAF, that will really seal this deal.
The clasp coronet is nicely centered and looks great next to my gen.
On the downside, the insert has the characteristic (and un gen-like) ARF long tail on the top of the 2 digit. Oh well. Also ARF/RAF continue to be oblivious to the fact that the CGs need to be longer. Here are four random actual gens, and a closeup to the new ARF. Also note the ARF crown platform for the coronet is too thick and pronounced, it should lie flatter.
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Yeah me too. It's just great to have so much knowledge in here also from modders etc. I think we all just desperately wait for THE good 5 digit rolex lol.Maybe just me, but I really enjoy seeing this kinda buzz around a release/drop
haha I got one of each (with and without engraving) for both models, I've been wanting good five digits for a long time!
Wow that was fast...These are so similar to RAF that it's hard to believe RAF is not a partner/subsidiary/pseudonym for ARF.
There are some improvements over previous ARF/RAF models.
The movement indeed looks like a VR, Ryan is calling it an SH V2. There are some tiny differences to what we know as the VR, but not significant. Noted at red dots. Datewheel does look a little bold in some pics. It looks OK to me on the no rehaut LN. Cyclops looks slightly crooked on this sample, that's a QC issue.
Overall this offering looks great, the case (CG exception noted below), dial, hands, bezel, insert, bracelet, clasp all look excellent. If the bezel operates better than the RAF, that will really seal this deal.
The clasp coronet is nicely centered and looks great next to my gen.
On the downside, ARF/RAF continue to be oblivious to the fact that the CGs need to be longer. Here are four random actual gens, and a closeup to the new ARF. Also note the ARF crown platform for the coronet is too thick and pronounced, it should lie flatter.
Great insight about the whole story! Thank you very much for this.
Thanks for this comparison, I agree on the CGs but we have to take what we can get!These are so similar to RAF that it's hard to believe RAF is not a partner/subsidiary/pseudonym for ARF.
There are some improvements over previous ARF/RAF models.
The movement indeed looks like a VR, Ryan is calling it an SH V2. There are some tiny differences to what we know as the VR, but not significant. Noted at red dots. Datewheel does look a little bold in some pics. It looks OK to me on the no rehaut LN. Cyclops looks slightly crooked on this sample, that's a QC issue.
Overall this offering looks great, the case (CG exception noted below), dial, hands, bezel, insert, bracelet, clasp all look excellent. If the bezel operates better than the RAF, that will really seal this deal.
The clasp coronet is nicely centered and looks great next to my gen.
On the downside, ARF/RAF continue to be oblivious to the fact that the CGs need to be longer. Here are four random actual gens, and a closeup to the new ARF. Also note the ARF crown platform for the coronet is too thick and pronounced, it should lie flatter.
at this point many of the gen's are deadly polished and lost a lot of material. So I think we can swallow that pill. Everything else just looks awesome. If the dw/crystal is an issue, that is easily replaced.
- 12/3/18
- 34,661
- 66,753
- 113
Very true bro, many gens will be polished. It's when the rest of the watch looks NOS that it becomes improbable. But such is our folly in our fantasies. It's something most of us can live with.
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I think @KJ2020 ’s blessing is more than enough.
My RAF came with ARF stickers so this might be a V2 or V3 depending on how you count the upgrades.
- 27/5/22
- 3,408
- 4,574
- 113
Not at home at the moment and I have since swapped the movement for a VS3135, the crystal for a VSF 116610 model and the crown to a VSF so it's not stock anymore.
- 27/12/19
- 795
- 1,013
- 93
Great upgrades! Inspiring me to do the same to mine. Whose got some VSF goodies for meNot at home at the moment and I have since swapped the movement for a VS3135, the crystal for a VSF 116610 model and the crown to a VSF so it's not stock anymore.
if this is true surely the no rehaut will be a TC killer... but i dont have my hopes up.. here's my answer from my dealer...
"ARF is close, I'm not going to source it"
"ARF is close, I'm not going to source it"